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Actually there was a lot of discussion earlier this year about what he can/can't do with a pardon. I believe it was on lawfare. Their podcast dug into the past, and if Nixon could pardon himself. Think this was it.

That's putting it mildly. Reading what those parents have been through, as a Dad...whew. I'd think they're done with violence in their lives, but if someone was on TV claiming what he did...it would be a struggle for me. No "I'm a bad ass" just a lot of empathy. I was following the case closely for awhile, but you know...pandemic, retirement, election. Guess I should see where it's at. I did watch about an hour of that deposition, had to stop. I don't think he's gone on any of his shows and said he was wrong and/or to stop harassing the parents. Of course, I don't watch/listen to anything he's on...so I may be wrong. Thank you for the article. Didn't know another parent killed himself, damn. EDIT: Tried to find the latest, looks like he's been losing his motions and it might actually go to trial soon. Also, those videos aren't showing up here anymore for me...strange.

He still claiming the kids at Sandy Hook were paid actors and harassing the parents? I get it, he's crazy and that's entertaining. But it's a pass from me.

I think it has been mentioned here before, but The Expanse is excellent SciFi.

Agreed. Done this, paid off in spades.

What bitch ass, safe space shit is this. 😆

Looking at those charges, I believe the general said, "I’ve gotta use some tic tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything....Grab them by the pussy,...You can do anything” No one cares update - daughter has covid, wife testing tomorrow, we'll see on me. Guess there's nothing anyone could have done to stop the spread across our nation. At. All.

To be clear, you're saying if the lawsuits are dismissed for lack of standing, cause, non-procedural issues, etc., then it's still a legitimate election for Biden? I would suggest that some people on this board, and a ton in my FB feed, who wear that label disagree with that assessment. Where is your line for the judiciaries hand in deciding the election, especially since the Courts have been very reluctant so far to get very involved? Fantastic read, thanks for sharing. I also happened to come across this, about some GI's taking extreme voter corruption head on. Book just came out about it - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946) It's been made apparent that my time on here isn't as appreciated by my family as it is by me. Additionally, my daughter was directly exposed to COVID..so I'm going to hunker down, lurk, and take care of what's important. Thank you all for the conversation and different opinions.

Fantastic read, thanks for posting that. No sarcasm. I love lawyer shit, and I learned more about PA elections than I ever wanted to. For everyone else here's what that lawsuit is asking the court to do - TL;DR - stop certifying the election; or certify it except for the votes we couldn't see and don't count the cured votes; and/or give us fees. It will be interesting to read what the defendants response is. This is only the claims for plaintiff, which of course frame it in the best way possible for them. Given the previous lawsuit outcomes in PA...I'm doubtful, but also not a lawyer so I don't know shit. For @Seadogs you know what's not in there? Thousands of affidavits, claims of thousands coming, or any affidavits actually. There's use of the words: "poll workers claim;" "one," "two," and "numerous" claims. But those aren't affidavits. Besides the campaign there's only 2 other plaintiffs. Even taking them all together in this lawsuit...not thousands of affidavits, or even claims. Maybe 20...maybe. Did you read it before you posted it, or just assumed it supported your claim? It's a good read. I don't think in the end they're going to get thousands of people claiming fraud, they'll get maybe a couple hundred. Now, is that enough to get the justices to act, then get a recount, and that recount push the needle far enough right in enough counties to change the outcome? WHO KNOWS?! It sure is exciting though! I've got zero problems with the legal process working it's way through. I'm following Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire on this one relatively closely. Question for the Trump supporters though, lets say these lawsuits go nowhere...still massive voter fraud conspiracy/stolen election? At any point do you accept the results? What if massive fraud is proved in PA, but nowhere else and Biden still takes the EC? I also apologize for the name calling, it was outta line. I voted R every office but Pres, and Attorney General in my state. The AG is too in bed with Big Tech for my liking. I don't believe we're that opposed in principal. I just never got the zealous support for any candidate...ever.

Cool. Not at all. M2, who asked us to play nicer a few posts ago. I didn't. That was a concerned "take a break." Good night.

There plan is not to rely on a vaccine, they're opening back up now after a lock down with very low case counts. Just so we're clear...there's no nation outside the US we can compare response to then unless they're having problems right now according to your requirements? Can you control for an American city similar to Melbourne, like SLC, or Portland...or somewhere else?

Dude...take a break.

Site your source you dumb motherfucker.

Australia then.

Any other Pres gone through this many SecDef's in so short a time? New guy probably not going to get confirmed, so not sure if he should count. Looks like any other Pres that went through so many did it over 8 years. Wikipedia's got a nice color-code for acting/confirmed. Pres. Trump's time looks starkly different to the rest, which is interesting.

LOL. Responding almost 2-for-1 in posts. Def not triggered.

Agreed. Now, how would you define the problem? There's been a few other posts on here with a lot of good nuance. What's your thoughts? I apologize if I missed it before, shoot me the post and I'll read it again.

I don't know. We keep selecting "conservative judges" and they keep doing things that are unexpected. Sure, they'll probably be more right leaning and less "legislative," but at the same time there's always that outlier case that can really change things. I have a feeling getting on SCOTUS is a lot like joining the Presidents Club. The weight of the office modifies, if not changes, some previously held beliefs. Kinda like Command in that way as well. Either way Senate will remain R (woo) so not too much damage will be done.

Uh oh, people don't agree with you on something so we're going the wrong way, and you don't like it?! Cry somewhere else like a bitch. We're having big boy discussions in here.

You must be hella fun in a debrief.

Oh.. is this better? If Biden wins, it's shenanigans. If Trump wins, it's vindication. Cause that's what we're doing right now.

Was this pushing for more civil rights investigations into police abuses or something else? I think also the seeds sown by the right leaning news sources about him as the "worst President ever" further pushed that narrative along. Obama did some shady shit, as all presidents do, but the vitriol of my friends who only consumed Fox surprised me. I think there does need to be something done about the conglomerate media sources, both print, news and social media. What that solution is...I don't know. But the ability for them to spread misinformation without repercussion, or stifle speech to skew one way is cancer to a free society. However, now that this election is over...is there a silent majority? Between the loud/proud Trump supporters and the Biden supporters there's another space? Trump supporters were never quiet, and only got louder as the election came closer. I don't think there's some silent majority. As some other commentators have said, this a repudiation of Trump, not of conservative/right-wing policies. I agree with that, voted almost entirely red except for the President...despite what my friends/family think. Agreed. I think if Trump had just taken COVID seriously we'd be having a completely different conversation. It has hit minority communities pretty hard, and while he picked up more votes there (great!) it probably was too much given the "racism in the white house" narrative on top of the plague. Even if he kept tweeting like crazy, dog whistling to conspiracy and maybe racist groups/militias. Anecdotal, but I had a lot of officer friends who're done with him for COVID response alone. The "I'm not responsible" comment in particular hit my male friends hard.

I think they're going to modify the immigration stance, and maybe finally push into place good, legal immigration changes. Perhaps take a look at the border in total (Canadian, increased human trafficking in ports). End "kids in cages" legislatively. Get rid of traitors names for US military bases. They'll definitely get back to caring about the deficit, and not robbing social security.

Except Fox.

In addition to this, what kind of crazy shit are we going to see from Trump as he exits? Is it going to be along the lines of the Clinton-Pardon-Party, or something else?