17D_guy

Call/write your congressman/senator like some drone folks did? Also, look up the AFI and give it a good scrub. There should be something in there covering it. However I think your options are, unfortunatly, limited. I really am disgusted with how the Air Force is handling air crew in this. Is it just that there's not a lot of rated on the promotion boards? I thought a rated officer was the president. Are they not aware of what's going on in the pipelines?

Of note, the vast majority of those that I enlisted with that went in Open General got Sec Forces. Those that crosstrained into my field from Open General were Sec Forces. Don't go Sec Forces. Dont' go Open General. If you have questions about enlisted AFSCs ask on the airforectimes forum as they have a greater spread of those fields. Aircrew enlisted woud be here.

We were already talking. I'm prior too.. whoopee. How much of that time volunteering is taking place during your "work hours". Additionally are you still working 12~14 hr shifts as a finance officer?? Doing what? Outside of end-of-year, I've never seen finance officers burn that much oil on legit work. How much is busy work, nice to have, idea-fairy, something a Col mentioned in passing? That opinion includes my good friends who're finance now, officers and enlisted. Is all your volunteer work on the weekend? How do you fit in PT time? Do you have a family? When do you see them? My wife's been gone every 75 days for a 90+ deployment. She's not finance, she wears bags. Plus the Sq wants her to work on upgrade training and knock out that AAD. All that time is supposed to come from time with me & our kiddos. What OTS time management lessons are you applying to get all this done? I can assure you, we're not all deploying and to say as much is just nonsense. Deployments to MacDill/Stuttgart etc don't count. Deployed in place doesn't count. Did you get a Bronze Star yet? /rant Mostly what we're all amazed at with this is the large national organization (there's a fing conference) that has time to put together a magazine that aggregates all this nonsense (look at some of the numbers), but medical and finance still close for training hours, PT, not have hours servicable to those of use who work swings/mids, and still jack up vouchers. CE won't work on anything that's not a ticket, no matter the emergency. Comm Cyber can't seem to patch comptuers without breaking them, and services keeps changing the color of their khakis. As always, it's trying to look good, with out actually being good. EDIT - you liked your own post.

Those jobs exist in our Sq's too, and are just as souless and non-mission directed. How about we just give everyone back a Sq. orderly room instead?

I wonder how this will effect my careerfield now that we have the 6-month PCS for initial training. Waiting on clearances could delay initial OPR at the Sq and depending on initial assignment there are some serious length schools that could impact the rating timeline. Granted it's nowhere near the "deal" you rated bubbas get, but if it gets more competitive for O3 (why wouldn't it) that could ding the cyber field. It's super shitty what's happened to you guys.

Please read his post again. It's not just the 10 years commitment. Remember the training time involved.

As a non-rated myself I wonder where all this free time comes from. I've looked at doing the CGOC because we don't have a large pool of peers in our Sq to interact with and it's good for networking and "getting things done". Remember, we don't have Sq bars. It helps to know, on pleasant terms initially, who the finance CGO is, same with medical and personnel. I get the bashing at times, but that's a serious incentive to me to head over, and I like to volunteer when I can -- not for promotion. But, we're so f'ing undermanned that I just don't have time with all the queep or anything else to understand how they knock all this nonsense out. I'm checking through EPRs to make sure the brand new SSgts didn't shit on the form and hand it up. My TSgt can't be bothered to look at them for a variety of reasons (overworked usually, lazy the other 49.9% of the time) and the MSgt are worried about making SMSgt/Top-3 more than anything else usually. (Side note: reason #2 I wanted a commision was to throat punch bad SNCOs.) Amn.. oh my god.. I don't usually get into Amn becuase that's the supervisors job. So when Amn snuffy is late by hours for the 4th time in 3 months and the SSgt tells me it's just verbal counseling again, the SSgt gets face rolled. Which takes time. Add that to the AAD, upcoming PME (whatever it is now), Add'l duties, and idea-fairy killing, I just don't have time besides robbing the family more to put towards something like that. Where are they getting this damn time??!?!?!?

I have a Col that I work with that sat the board and confirms the pass-overs for those without OPRs to include aircrew, or those who didn't make it through aircrew training and reclassed into something else. Couldn't imagine getting medically DQ'd from UPT, sitting casual, going intel, waiting on clearances/training and then not getting promoted. Additionally.. those that got passed over at the last board completed for APZ consideration and knocked some of your/my peers out for Capt this time as well. I've yet to hear anyone O6 and above sing about the virtues of this selection process. If I had to do another year as a Lt I'd punch.

At the pentagon. I've never seen Generals/Senior officers outside of that fine establishment wear anything but bags the vast majority of the time. You've seen officers show up in blues just 'cause they wanted to? Sounds like a CSAF we just had. That guy as you mention, was a douche. Uh, no. It's a question the AFSPC CC and Chief addressed directly in briefings at my base and in a personal meeting.

I was a 3C2X1 (Comm Tech Control) - which doesn't exist anymore, and neither might HU&W's. My old careerfield is 3D??? now. But I don't think there's an enlisted careerfield that's going to on-ramp you for being commissioning/being pilot. Someone else please correct me if I'm wrong. Took me a decade to knock out my degree while in jobs that did not deploy much. Your first 2 years in the AF as Amn are not going to be good for college. So there's 1/2 your enlistment if you do 4 years (which you should). Always go mins when dealing with gov't commitment. I'm not a pilot, but when I applied to OTS I got the following advice: "Do you want to be an officer, or a (insert officery job here)" because it's a dice roll if you're getting in (look at current approval rates) AND if you'll get the job you want. In 2008 I put Intel, Comm, Space & Missiles... and got Comm. Very very strange that I got that given what was going on in the AF at the time. Also, go to college.

There is a question if you've ever applied to a commissioning source before and quit. Perhaps enlist and then try for a slot?

Cops have since called the whole thing bullshit. As always - Can't Trust a Crack Whore.

Was it not loud enough, and you fell asleep?

I wonder if they were putting the raw feed out and looking at the delay on set. Great annoyed face there at the end. I got to watch the profuse apologizing afterwards. You know in between gold, diabetes, medical supply, and mesothelioma lawsuit ads.

Was going to link that myself. For you bag wearers, that's the reason I get mad you wear flight suits when not flying. Because leadership makes shit decisions for our uniform because they don't wear it! It's terrible even inside in non-combat! Wearing it once a week is fine for the stars who brought us this thing (when addressing Amn, photo ops, etc). I really didn't care that much about staff-weenies rocking their PJ's until I started wearing this tiger-stripped disaster. They fit terribly and never get comfortable like the BDU's did after a few washes. it's like I'm constantly pulling on cardboard when I get ready for work. You also have to try on each set you buy since it's a toss up if they cut the sleeves/legs to the right length. I was super excited when Comm Officers became 17D/Cyber Ops because I thought we'd be getting bags at some point. I mean, we're ops right? Just like missileers and space jocks. Well, we all know how that turned out. I would love to have BDU's back. Sure I have to iron a little, and make the boots stay black. But at least I could have patches (you know - heritage & morale) and waterproof boots. Or hell, just let us all wear OCP/multcam, I've heard nothing bad about that uniform. Also: bring back Squadron hats. We already get trashed enough for losing our way and trying to sit at the "we're all warriors" table. This f*cking uniform thing is additional nonsense I get at work constantly now. The "aquaflage" looks like the original wear test AF leadership started in 2005. But it got mocked so hard they had to drop it. At least the navy went full digital instead of sticking with this stupid and useless tiger-stripe infatuation. https://www.af.mil/ph...yID=231&page=18

EDIT - Nevermind As far as APO I volunteered a lot when I was at Ramstein at their post office. I left right when they started taking 2 day weekends (sun & mon I believe). Those guys were slammed every day, and it was worse Oct - Feb obviously. I used shipitapo dot com and it was ok, if a little expensive and slow.

Was not aware that was optional.

Which one?

"I totally agree that their findings about you were wrong. I'll send a letter to the bosses on your behalf, and here's a LOR so you can...fight it." "Oh, you didn't like the LOR? Fine, you're fired since I can't trust you anymore." EDIT: Clarity... stupidity actually.

Totally not stealing our technology

Guess she didn't knock out that Resiliency CBT Police: Wife Stages Shooting To Avoid Air Force Deployment https://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/09/14/police-wife-stages-shooting-to-avoid-deployment/

Nice. When I got guys PTDY for a week multiple times a year to do multiple funerals for folks who didn't retire, or serve even close to a decade, or did their draft time in Germany, it seems a bit strange. The broad from "who wants to marry a millionare" gets a military funeral if she/family so desires. Yea.. fck the vets is totally what I was saying. Also, happened during Bush II's presidency. Obama is clear, though I think the Congress might have been Democrat at the time. EDIT: Political Clarity

Wait.. what? I've got 15% monthly kicking over into that thing, and maxing out my IRA this year. For the first time ever actually, kinda proud. NM - 15% is just over 1/2 the allowed limit. For those not interested in google - https://www.tsp.gov/planparticipation/eligibility/contributionLimits.shtml

Can we stop making same deals for everyone that spent a month in uniform for those that served 20? My Amn on the honor guard lost their minds when Congress decided ALL vets can have a military funeral.

He didn't get his CBT's done... an appropriate response to his failures.