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Meeting is tomorrow right? Good Luck!

I thought the 80s movie was an interesting take on the book. Come to find out after the fact there was a ton of studio meddling, and the special effects of the day didn't really let them do what they wanted to. I think it is faithful in spirit. I'm looking forward to the new movie. I still haven't seen all of the SciFi series on it...was busy getting the degree when it dropped.

Damn, that was really good. It's why I only voted blue at Pres, Red almost everything else. Though, I will say he doesn't have the read on that hockey player who bullied the kid. There are additional reports he kept verbally abusing the kid after the court case, but I can't be bothered to find them now. Sorry.

I have no idea what you guys are talking about, but it's making me want to start on my PPL.

How about the other counties, and other states? Like also how after 25% it changes from "eyewitness" to...not that. I'm sure that won't be a problem in court. Also, just because it's in CAPS doesn't make it more official. FYI.

Yep, happy to see Seb get on podium again as well. Race was way too early for me, so I just caught the highlights.

I made it only 1/2 way, sorry. They need an editor, and a script. As I've said before, these are one side of the case only. They are the Trump lawyers exhibits, and there's already been contested affidavit's (ex. postal worker) showing a lack of strength to the truthiness of all these claims. Looks like there's 3 lawsuits in Michigan right now, 2 Trump campaign, 1 other supporting. 2 have been denied, this one, which I assume is the last one has not yet been seen by a judge as far as I can tell. Perhaps there's a 4th, if so it's also been denied as far as I can find. A lot of these cases have been denied because the affidavits come to the court like this - "Judge Cynthia Stephens said in a written order Friday that while one plaintiff alleged he was excluded from watching the ballot counting, "the complaint does not specify when, where, or by whom plaintiff was excluded. Nor does the complaint provide any details about why the alleged exclusion occurred." So no, it wasn't convincing that there's wide spread fraud in MI, a traditional democratic state since since the first Clinton election that Trump only won by .22% or 10.7K votes. What's more likely...massive voter fraud, or a return to the blue voting for the past 30 years? Biden won by current count of 146K. Which is about what Kerry and Gore took over Dubya. But there's going to be massive, statewide fraud to "create" 600K+ votes for Biden out of nowhere. Sure.

So, for the dummy in the room...what's IRRL in this context.

We can't get people to wear masks to stop a pandemic, but we're going to get them to dye their finger? The evidence so far from the Trump lawyers does not support your assessment that the win/loss margin was narrow enough that these results will be overturned. Getting 10K votes thrown out where Biden won by 150K is a fools errand. There are yet not enough documented accounts to support those claims. The Trump lawyer team has claimed there is, but hasn't produced the evidence.

Here's a good overview of every Trump lawsuit, its current standing and some of the evidence - https://time.com/5908505/trump-lawsuits-biden-wins/ If you don't like the Time link, there's one on wiki as well, but time was more concise. You're not going to get a perfect system for voting, because we're human. There are always going to be issues. Every reliable source has said that the election was very secure, and there were minor issues...just like every year. Does fraud happen, yes. But it's not on an order of magnitude that the Pres is claiming, and they're generally caught.

I've been out of the media space for books and film for awhile (school/AF/family), generally getting only what's popular. I liked the new sci fi blockbusters that have come out "recently" like Gravity and Interstellar. But I don't have much beyond that. Though it is time for me to read Dune again. It's legit something I was looking forward to in retirement. Only correction for @Prozac is it's on Prime. Otherwise his take is spot on. They really get "the little things" right, like what happens if you have an injury in zero G.

We do too bud, we do too.

Weird, because the videos are coming up when I searched them on the YT, just not here.

Actually there was a lot of discussion earlier this year about what he can/can't do with a pardon. I believe it was on lawfare. Their podcast dug into the past, and if Nixon could pardon himself. Think this was it.

That's putting it mildly. Reading what those parents have been through, as a Dad...whew. I'd think they're done with violence in their lives, but if someone was on TV claiming what he did...it would be a struggle for me. No "I'm a bad ass" just a lot of empathy. I was following the case closely for awhile, but you know...pandemic, retirement, election. Guess I should see where it's at. I did watch about an hour of that deposition, had to stop. I don't think he's gone on any of his shows and said he was wrong and/or to stop harassing the parents. Of course, I don't watch/listen to anything he's on...so I may be wrong. Thank you for the article. Didn't know another parent killed himself, damn. EDIT: Tried to find the latest, looks like he's been losing his motions and it might actually go to trial soon. Also, those videos aren't showing up here anymore for me...strange.

He still claiming the kids at Sandy Hook were paid actors and harassing the parents? I get it, he's crazy and that's entertaining. But it's a pass from me.

I think it has been mentioned here before, but The Expanse is excellent SciFi.

Agreed. Done this, paid off in spades.

What bitch ass, safe space shit is this. 😆

Looking at those charges, I believe the general said, "I’ve gotta use some tic tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything....Grab them by the pussy,...You can do anything” No one cares update - daughter has covid, wife testing tomorrow, we'll see on me. Guess there's nothing anyone could have done to stop the spread across our nation. At. All.

To be clear, you're saying if the lawsuits are dismissed for lack of standing, cause, non-procedural issues, etc., then it's still a legitimate election for Biden? I would suggest that some people on this board, and a ton in my FB feed, who wear that label disagree with that assessment. Where is your line for the judiciaries hand in deciding the election, especially since the Courts have been very reluctant so far to get very involved? Fantastic read, thanks for sharing. I also happened to come across this, about some GI's taking extreme voter corruption head on. Book just came out about it - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946) It's been made apparent that my time on here isn't as appreciated by my family as it is by me. Additionally, my daughter was directly exposed to COVID..so I'm going to hunker down, lurk, and take care of what's important. Thank you all for the conversation and different opinions.

Fantastic read, thanks for posting that. No sarcasm. I love lawyer shit, and I learned more about PA elections than I ever wanted to. For everyone else here's what that lawsuit is asking the court to do - TL;DR - stop certifying the election; or certify it except for the votes we couldn't see and don't count the cured votes; and/or give us fees. It will be interesting to read what the defendants response is. This is only the claims for plaintiff, which of course frame it in the best way possible for them. Given the previous lawsuit outcomes in PA...I'm doubtful, but also not a lawyer so I don't know shit. For @Seadogs you know what's not in there? Thousands of affidavits, claims of thousands coming, or any affidavits actually. There's use of the words: "poll workers claim;" "one," "two," and "numerous" claims. But those aren't affidavits. Besides the campaign there's only 2 other plaintiffs. Even taking them all together in this lawsuit...not thousands of affidavits, or even claims. Maybe 20...maybe. Did you read it before you posted it, or just assumed it supported your claim? It's a good read. I don't think in the end they're going to get thousands of people claiming fraud, they'll get maybe a couple hundred. Now, is that enough to get the justices to act, then get a recount, and that recount push the needle far enough right in enough counties to change the outcome? WHO KNOWS?! It sure is exciting though! I've got zero problems with the legal process working it's way through. I'm following Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire on this one relatively closely. Question for the Trump supporters though, lets say these lawsuits go nowhere...still massive voter fraud conspiracy/stolen election? At any point do you accept the results? What if massive fraud is proved in PA, but nowhere else and Biden still takes the EC? I also apologize for the name calling, it was outta line. I voted R every office but Pres, and Attorney General in my state. The AG is too in bed with Big Tech for my liking. I don't believe we're that opposed in principal. I just never got the zealous support for any candidate...ever.

Cool. Not at all. M2, who asked us to play nicer a few posts ago. I didn't. That was a concerned "take a break." Good night.

There plan is not to rely on a vaccine, they're opening back up now after a lock down with very low case counts. Just so we're clear...there's no nation outside the US we can compare response to then unless they're having problems right now according to your requirements? Can you control for an American city similar to Melbourne, like SLC, or Portland...or somewhere else?

Dude...take a break.