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Another great story... Cheers! M2

While nothing new to some of us, it is well-articulated and his examples drive the point home. The ridiculousness of initiatives such as arming the ANA with M-16s is lost on many US seniors. Seriously? While more accurate than its AK counterpart, the AR is a high-maintenance and complex rifle that exceeds the capabilities of all but the most proficient soldiers in the Afghan military. While mastering the basic proficiency of this weapon is easily done by the average US soldier, it is a monumental task for the ANA and they will simply give up on it when they get frustrated (which will occur very early in the program). I suspect most of the rifles will end up in insurgent hands anyway. Oddly enough, Afghan commandos and special forces still use the AK. What I like most about Veneri’s excellent article is his point that some of the obstacles we face in Afghanistan may be insurmountable. That is a tough concept for most Americans to grasp, especially those in the military. We are trained to believe that every problem can be fixed, but we all know that simply just isn’t the case. Unfortunately, it appears that Afghanistan may be one such problem! Thanks for posting this, I am passing it on! Cheers! M2

WTF? Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ysuG2O0zw Apparently it's available on Netflix... Cheers! M2

Way to go, Utah!

Yeah, it looks like the rumors turned out to be BS. There was a study released yesterday, that's about it...

A serious WTF!?! YGBSM!

This is funny and a bit strange all at the same time...

There's a rumor abound that the ATF is going to change its ruling concerning pistol-gripped shotguns, which may (emphasis on 'may') cause problems for folks that own or want to buy them... Now, before anyone gets excited, there was a reply to this that made good sense... An announcement is expected tomorrow (Monday, 24 January 2011), I just wanted to post the above info in case anyone was considering buying a shottie in the near future. The bottom line looks to be there won't be anything to worry about, but sometimes with the ATF you just don't know how they're going to respond... Cheers! M2

I just wanted to wish John Moses Browning, the man responsible for so many outstanding firearms but especially the pistol that celebrates its 100th anniversary this year, a very happy birthday on 23 January! He had 128 gun patents approved during his lifetime. Cheers! M2

Not this is a great way to sell guns! Sherwin Shooting Sports Auctions Guns selling guns! OK, a few are a little butter-faced; but at least they've got their fingers off the triggers! Cheers! M2

This story is finally hitting the wires... Hero Pilot Pulls Out the Stops to Help Grandpa Reach Funeral: 2011's Most Heartwarming Travel Story? It's about time! Cheers! M2

Nope, but that's just up Military Dr from Brooks...

WTF?

If you guys want to call him to sort this out, his number is (402) 733-3531. Otherwise, more tits!

I did chat with him a bit of Friday, he says his mods are about $300 above the price of the gun; but knowing him it's worth every penny! The guy's not in it for the money, he's one of those guys that really loves firearms and making them better. He's a bigger gun nut than I am! He did quote me on his cost for a standard Saiga-12, I don't really want to repeat it on here in that he may have meant it for me only but if you're interested drop him a line. That said, something has popped back up on my radar that may preempt my purchasing a Saiga-12; that being a Romanian FPK-style DMR by TGI with a 24" barrel... Given all the 7.62x54R ammo I have for my Mosins, it would make more sense to pick one of these up versus a PSL (which I don't like the Dragunov stock too much). So once again I am torn between several guns to buy. I still would like to pick up a Yugo M76 one of these days but many of those had issues that I don't feel like dealing with. The above FPK is most likely going to be my next acquisition, though...and I will also have to find a good scope for it! Cheers! M2

Interesting coincidence, I was just outside the AFISRA Commander's office where they have the Order of the Sword display. There have been seven awarded over the history of that organization, and Urschler was one (he retired as the ESC/CV). More side-boob action here! Cheers! M2

nsplayr, my comments weren't necessarily directed towards you... But back to more important discussions, I am not quite sure why anyone would want to shoot birdshot other than shooting...well, birds! Anyone who tells to you to use it for home defense is nuts, well, unless they are protecting themselves from...(wait for it!)...birds! I want a minimum-length shottie for one reason, to punch big holes in anything or anyone that threatens my family, me or my property. That's why I have the Mossberg 500 Persuader (pics on buried somewhere in this 100+ page thread). But I wouldn't mind getting a Saiga for a backup or even possible defensive shotgun matches (similar to IDPA, but with shotguns, of course). They have three divisions of competition (manual, auto and open), and my aforementioned buddy Alex has competed at the USPSA 3-Gun with this nice little number... Here's a bud of his who also has a Saiga 12... And another creation of Alex's... I gotta admit, those pics really raise my desire to get a Saiga! The question is, which one?!? Cheers! M2

HeloDude I forgot, someone told me that a some of the BXs that carry guns (Barksdale, Davis-Monthan, Dyess, Eglin, Eielson, Ellsworth, Elmendorf, Hill, Holloman, Little Rock, Minot, Nellis, Offutt, Tinker and Whiteman AFBs; and Ft Belvoir, Ft Campbell, Ft Drum, Ft Hood, Ft Knox, Ft Leavenworth, Ft Polk, Ft Riley, Ft Rucker, Ft Stewart and Ft Wainwright, in case you'd forgotten) have Saiga-12s for $549. I think Elgin and D-M were mentioned, but can't say for sure. The prices aren't the greatest, but no sales tax helps, as does some of those AAFES coupons if you can score 'em! Cheers! M2

HeloDude Funny you should ask, as I was just looking at some my buddy Alex builds as the itch for one recently came back. Another buddy of mine was asking about a revolver called a Rhino, and since he is just buying his first guns I asked him why he didn't pick up a shottie instead? After buying a semi-auto pistol for self-defense/conceal carry, I always recommend buying a shotgun for home defense. Once you have those two bases covered, then you can start shopping for more interesting/collectible stuff. I also recently saw a Saiga 12 with an underfolder stock that was tempting, but the seller wanted $980 for it and that's ridiculous! It's a cool configuration, and professionally done according to the seller; but I could probably get one just like it built for a couple of hundred less... I'll probably run into Alex tomorrow and will ask him what he can do, and I'll see what's a good price and source for the Saiga 12s. He competes with them so they've got to be good, and I think they're running ~$500 which I believe it a bit high so I'd be interested in hearing what he thinks. The guy's a great gunsmith and knows his shit, and his advice is usually spot on! I'll let you know what he says! Cheers! M2

God bless 'em! I am glad we fly Southwest on occasion, as that was a very good thing they did! Cheers! M2

This "debate" is pointless until facts or other evidence are presented supporting the claim that innocent people are at risk because of legally-armed citizens. Discussing “feelings” may be fun on Dr Phil, but this is not the place nor time for it, so either put up some facts to support your clams, or shut up. Here are mine... The “fear” (in quotes because it is unfounded) that a law-abiding armed citizen could cause more deaths in such a situation as Tucson has been disproved numerous times. It is anti-gun hyperbole much like claims that allowing people to conceal carry will increase “shootouts” in public. That was a “fear” raised when Suzanna Huff--who lost both her parents in the 1991 Killeen Luby’s shooting--fought to get Texas to issue concealed handgun licenses. She was in the Luby's during the shooting, and testified that she had several opportunities where she could have easily stopped the shooter had she been armed; but under Texas law at the time she was unable to carry thus George Jo Hennard was able to kill 23 (to include her parents) and wound an additional 20 before comitting suicide. But in 1995 Texas became a “shall issue” state, and in the 15 years since there has not been one instance that I could find where an innocent victim was injured or killed by a CHL holder intervening during a crime. However, in 2005, Felix Vigil was attacking his ex-wife with a knife behind a Albuquerque Walmart deli counter where she worked when a 72-year-old armed customer named Due Moore intervened and shot him, saving the woman’s life. Also, just last week here in San Antonio, a CHL holder intervened when he saw a pit bull attacking a woman on the side of the road. He shot the dog and was credited by the police for saving the woman’s life. And, as stated, there was a armed citizen who wisely chose not to use his firearm in the incident in Tucson. Most states require training in the legal use of lethal force as well as weapons qualification before issuing a permit. Claims that they are “Dirty Harry wannabes” are utterly ridiculous, as evidence proves that given the millions across the country that have been issued conceal permits, these alleged events do not happen. They are the result of an overactive imagination, and have no basis in reality. As a matter of fact, Texas tracks crimes committed by its CHL holders versus the total population, and it has been found across the board that the former are far less likely to commit a crime. Here are some more “facts,” courtesy of Gun Facts: Countries with the strictest gun-control laws also tended to have the highest homicide rates (source: Violence, Guns and Drugs: A Cross-Country Analysis, Jeffery A. Miron, Department of Economics, Boston University, University of Chicago Press Journal of Law & Economics, October 2001). Brazil has mandatory licensing, registration, and maximum personal ownership quotas. It now bans any new sales to private citizens. Their homicide rate is almost three (3) times higher than the U.S. (source: Homicide trends in the United States, U.S. data: Bureau of Justice Statistics, September, 2004. Brazil data: Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, 2005.). Only 0.1% (1 in a thousand) of the defensive uses of guns results in the death of the criminal (source: Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America, Gary Kleck, New York: Aldine de Gruyter, 1991). Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times – more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds. Of these instances, 15.6% of the people using firearms defensively stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so. Firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives than to take lives.. In 83.5% (2,087,500) of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first, proving that guns are very well suited for self-defense (source: Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Fall 1995). Washington D.C. has essentially banned gun ownership since 1976 and has a murder rate of 56.9 per 100,000. Across the river in Arlington, Virginia, gun ownership is less restricted. There, the murder rate is just 1.6 per 100,000, less than three percent of the Washington, D.C. rate. (source: Crime in the United States, FBI, 1998). So go ahead and “feel” all you want, the “fear” of someone being accidentally shot or killed by an intervening armed citizen are unfounded. There has been little to no evidence of that ever happening, and statistically it is so remote that it would make more sense not to let you family ride in a car because they are much more likely to be hurt or killed doing that!

Just one man's opinion...and I disagree, in case that even needed to be said! That said, stricter gun laws have never had an effect on crime; all it does it keep law-abiding citizens from owning the prohibited items. As a matter of fact, most myths about gun control have been disproved, but that doesn't stop the anti-gun coalitions from spewing their rhetoric. Honestly, does anyone think that Loughner, Cho or Hasan would have been curtailed in their efforts if such laws existed? Would not having a 33-round magazine made much of a difference in Arizona? A trained individual can reload in less than a second. Was there a push to pose limits on passengers in cars after Chappaquiddick? It's all ridiculous hyperbole that politicians spew to make their constituents feel that they are actually "doing something" after an event such as this. It happens every time and it always blows over, and I suspect it will do the same in a couple of weeks... Cheers! M2

And I am just capturing your comments so we all know what a fucking idiot you are! Well, you have every right to be a fucking idiot, the First Amendment protects that; but care to explain why you think those rights are absolute while there should be limitations on the ones expressed in the Second?!?

SNAP, you don't know me very well... And where in the hell in the Second Amendment does it state "firearm ownership lines have to drawn somewhere?!?" I am exercising the right I defended for almost 25 years. If you have any problems with that, then

WTF? Ain't that Cody Underwood? Damian, what's the dealie dude? Are we gonna blow up this tree line or what? Tuk-Tuk and Kim got the blue balls and I wanna let em squirt it for a go... Peter, can he hear me?