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You want the Defense Investigative Service, although it would probably be easier if you found their local office in your area. Contact your security officer for info. Cheers! M2

Here's another pic in the folded configuration, from a different angle... Cheers! M2

Interesting blurb I found on AFSOC's web site... I also found the following at this site... Of course that last paragraph is not an official source. I was just trying to find where it said that in official writing... Cheers! M2

Oddly enough, before the Ospreys arrived, they did a demo of a team rappelling from a pair of MH-53s. Considering the limitation of not being able to rappel out the side doors due to the extreme downdraft of the propellers (as I have read, I do not have any firsthand knowledge of this), it makes you wonder if someone was trying to make a point! Still, I have to say it was an interesting entrance... Cheers! M2

The "official" USAF cost... Cheers! M2 [ 16. November 2006, 18:59: Message edited by: M2 ]

Here's a quick vid... That's about all it did before landing and shutting down. A second Osprey landed on the northern part of the field and shut down as well. Cheers! M2

I am currently at JSOU, and hope to get out to see the CV-22 arrive. Should be quite a show... Cheers! M2

I used to wear one in college back in the mid-to-late 80's, and for a while when I was a Lt; but it's been a long time since. Here is who I had: Some of you might remember back in July 1991 Robertson, along with AF Major Albro Lundy and USN LT Larry Stevens, were the three MIA's "identified" in a photo that was reportedly "snuck" out of Vietnam... Turned out it was a doctored version of the photo at bottom, which appeared in a 1989 Khmer-language edition of the magazine Soviet Life. It is a photo of three Soviet farmers during the Stalin era celebrating a record harvest. I also got to have lunch with one of Robertson's daughters, Shelby Robertson-Quest, when Ross Perot testified before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs back in 1992. Anyhow, glad to see they are making a comeback...I might just dig mine out (I also have one in silver, also for Robertson). By the way, I know the USAF outlawed the yellow LiveStrong bracelets, but as far as I know these are still legal, right? Cheers! M2

Bendy looks something like this... Or is that me? I can't remember... Cheers! M2

But could he score in Del Rio? Cheers! M2

Fox News is currently reporting that Jill Metger's dissappearance has "sparked a federal criminal investigation!" Now it is getting interesting! Cheers! M2

Seriously, if it goes anywhere, I suspect it will be the Air Intelligence Agency, co-located here on Security Hill. The 67th Network Warfare Wing--which is an AIA unit--is a good hint that AIA could be that "Cyber Command." Also, prior to becoming AIA, it was a command (AFIC and ESC). Plus, look at their mission statement: and their "vision"... But, as I work for STRATCOM in the same building as AIA, I haven't heard any rumblings on it. If I do, I'll let everyone know as I realize you are all anxious to know... Cheers! M2

Glad to hear the crew got out, this doesn't look good... Cheers! M2

In case any of the SNAPs don't have an idea of what the article is referring to... (Click on pic for man-sized version) I haven't been there for years, I spent most of my career trying to avoid the place. However, I have had lunch at Ground Zero... Cheers! M2

Well, if BaseOps' story is true, and I have no reason to doubt him as I know he is a fine, upstarting individual, then she--and her comrades--have got to be the biggest ****ing idiot in the world walking around on the local economy dressed live Flavor Flav...and the screwed it up for everyone else who goes there. I know it is extremely hard to "blend in" at that location, but you can sure as hell do a lot not to attract additional attention to yourself! As for the running angle, we aren't the ones making the big deal out of it, it is her and all the press reporting on her that constantly remarks on it. Who really gives a shit? And what does it have to do with the price of tea in China? Now, if she has some sort of super-special SERE skills I could see mentioning it, but her running skills didn't do her much good! Cheers! M2

10MAN Almost a score, and I would've been very impressed with your finding that, until I noticed... Even with my magical skills at the Internet, I was unable to locate a copy for sale. I could only think to find a reputable, large aviation gallery that might be able to help you track one down, Hoser. But with the apparent scarcity of that painting, it may cost ya! Best of luck! Cheers! M2

The latest... Notice how secretive they are about Ramstein? ("Major Metzger spent the last few days undergoing medical evaluations and debriefings at a US air base in Germany."). WTF? The largest contingent of Americans outside of the 50 states and they can't even name the base in a press release? Can't wait to read the "offial report!" :rolleyes: Cheers! M2

Two, I hope she wasn't fvck'd with either; but if she was, we should know about it and go after those MF'ers will full vengence. Problem is, we won't... All said, I still think there is a large part of this story we're not hearing... Cheers! M2

Today's news...looks like we're not the only ones being fed a BS line... Cheers! M2

Actually, it is her mental state that concerned me. "(Metzger) reportedly does not speak any of the major local languages, Kyrgyz, Russian or Uzbek. And investigators said they determined that she appeared to have left the store of her own volition." "Kyrgyz officials, speaking to reporters on condition of anonymity, said they found her story baffling." They're not the only ones! And notice how fast the USAF got her out of country? My gut feeling is that there is something odd going on here, the first thing I would do is send her over for a piss test! They like the ganga in Kyrgystan... Cheers! M2

I smell another Jessica Lynch or Scott O'Grady spin coming... "I Am An Airman Too: The Jill Metzger Story" or "Return with Honor--Part Deux" Sorry for the cynicism, I just can't stand people who take running seriously... Cheers! M2

Now the story is saying "her hair was dyed..." and not shaved. F'ing A, I am sure we'll never hear the truth about what happened... Cheers! M2

Sounds like a kidnapped bride to me! I have the feeling this will turn into a soap opera once all the facts are known. Shaved head? I don't know of any Kyrgyz cultural ritual where a woman's head is shaved, unless she was being punished for being a "modern Western woman." Something smells fishy here, and it isn't the fish! Cheers! M2

Hey guys, I just got "the call," so if some dudes pull up to your house/apartment in a black Lincoln, and/or there has been a black helicopter flying overhead for most of the morning, now you know why. I think the mods need to delete this thread and everyone that posted in it needs to look at this "pen" I am holding... Although we have discussed it before, here's a recap...you need an SSBI done before you get a TS. Once you have a TS, if you need an SCI, you will be read into it. There is no more background investigating done for an SCI, it is just information that is more compartmented, meaning less people have a "need to know" about it. There are additional programs and/or levels you can be read into, depending on your "need to know" (notice that is the second time I have used that phrase, it is a very important factor when it comes to security clearances). So, my best guess to all of this is that Big Air Force wants everyone going to UPT to complete the paperwork for their SSBI before going. As UPT and the time to complete a background investigation take about the same time, graduates will either have or be very close to having their TS clearance completed once they pin on their wings. If you need to know more than that, contact your SSO. If you don't have one, or you don't know what an SSO is, then most likely you don't need to do an SSBI or need a TS. Feel free to PM me if there are any questions, I may even respond! Cheers! M2

Lt SNAP Why do you feel it is necessary to revive a thread that has been dead and buried for almost four months? Let it go... Cheers! M2