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Thanks guys. I wasn't looking to fly with it obviously, just wondering if it would help out at all as a one place source for flight planning info. I'll save that money for more useful UPT expeditures, such as booze and IP shacks.

Any insight as to how useful ForeFlight would be during UPT? During the instrument/cross country flights, would it be a time saver to be able to check weather/NOTAMS/TFR's/review enroute charts/approach plates, bascially flight planning, all in one place instead of looking through multiple sites online for the same info? My subscription, which I used a civilian, is about to expire so I am just debating if it is worth it to renew now that I am in UPT.

With only 4 more days until the ATP-CTP becomes a requirement for the written, I've been trying to see if anyone has a course up and running for it, and what the cost is. I've found that ATP is offering it for 8k. My question is, I understand that it is only for the written endorsement, but will the training and sim time prepare you to be able to take the check ride in that sim? If so, with another hour of sim time and a DPE fee, the price might not be that much higher than an ATP prep course and check ride in an aircraft. Also, if you could take the check ride in the sim, wouldn't you also get the type rating for that sim? I have mine completed already so it's not a factor for me. Just curious.

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Is there generally a long enough gap (sts) between UPT and B courses to take some leave for a ground school and checkride for an ATP cert? I'm scheduled to start UPT this Sept (guard fighter spot with no scheduled IFF or B course dates yet), but only have around 600 hrs as a CFI. I know after UPT I will have the mins for the restricted ATP, I'm just not sure if there would be time within the 2yrs after I take the written to get a checkride in. Would anyone recommend taking it before I leave just in case, or are the odds unlikely that I would be able to cram in (sts) an ATP course while still running the training pipeline, and just use the money to buy booze and hope that in 4 years when my seasoning days end that the FAA has a military exemption to the ATPCP?

I did not take a PT test prior. It was not an issue or even questioned. You'll take one on day 1 so just make sure you can pass.

I'll switch you for a TBD date if your looking to get out of that March class

Has anyone actually received a UPT date recently? I've been waiting around a year and have been told that it could still be awhile to even get a date.

I had one of each blues item while I was there. You will only wear your blues a couple times. You will have 2 open ranks in blues with only 1 of them being full service, then you will not wear blues until graduation week. You will possibly need blues to walk around base during phase 2, but our class submitted a memo to wear ABU's which got approved so we didn't have to wear blues on base at all.

I just graduated this month. We didn't need the all weather coat and it wasn't on the required uniform items from the holm center website either. Ankle socks were required for us. The whole campus is going wireless and using blackboard for submitting assignments so the use of personal laptops and tablets was encouraged and able to be used from day 1.

People tend to read to much into the question. Just remember on the scenario questions that it's what the AF and curriculum says you should do, not what common sense tells you to do. Know your own learning method and stick with it. We had several large study groups that I stayed away from because they tended to get off track or focus on topics that I might not have been having trouble with. For me, flash cards with the SOBs were perfect. Briefings and papers were stupid easy. They are graded on requirements sheet that you get a copy of before. If your paper/brief have everything the sheet says it needs, you win. Content doesn't matter and they let you cite the work in the most easiest way possible. Also, Wait for the flight commanders to wake you up on day 1. On day 2, better have an alarm set, don't wait for them to wake you... They won't.

1. You will need your ribbon rack with all federal ribbons, state is only optional and 98% of the students will not bring or wear them. 2. Being a male I can only speak to what I have seen. Most females only wore the low quarters. The thing about AMS is EVERYONE has to be uniform, meaning if one female wants to wear heels, all the females must wear heels. All the females in my class just stuck with the low quarters. 3. 1 pair of boots will be fine. Some people brought 2 pairs but that just means one pair is always subject to inspection while in your dorm. I only brought 1 pair while my roommate brought 2 and ended up putting his extra pair in my car and never needed them. You will be fine with only 1 pair. 4. You can have other colors in the shoe just make sure they are not "flashy", you do not want to stand out or have them catch unneeded attention. 5. Depends what you want altered. You will need your blues to be ready by end of week 2 or beginning of week 3 for open ranks. You will not have time to go to alterations during the first 2 weeks. I recommend getting everything altered before hand, if you cannot, drop some stuff off the Saturday before your class starts and if you need them before your allowed to go get them on your own, just let your flight commander know, they were pretty reasonable when it came to that stuff. 6. 95% of my wings pay was on time, if it wasn't, it was due to orders being wrong or the individuals unit messing something up. They are very serious about your pay here and will help you do what it takes to make sure you receive it. 7. You do not wear blues a whole lot here. You will wear them twice for open ranks, then for the graduation events and that is it. I brought 1 short sleeve and 1 long sleeve and never wore the long sleeve at all since it was summer. Again, anything extra you have are potential demerits during inspections. 8. Definitely pants, since you are going in November you probably will not be wearing a skirt. Anything extra or questionable you want to bring, keep it in your car, a flight mates car, or dry cleaners until you need it. No one checks to make sure you have the "required" items on the list, just don't be the individual that doesn't bring the APECS jacket and makes the whole wing march without theirs in the rain to stay uniformed. Hope this info helps. PM me if you have any other questions.

Extreme, when did you get your dates? I received mine about 3 weeks ago and my timeline is exactly the same as yours, minus the UPT. I was told UPT classes are booked through FY14 so I probably won't be going until FY15.

This may be a little off topic, but with DADT off the table, and same sex marriage being recognized federally, what is going to stop enlisted booze buddies from legally wedding their bros for the added benifits? Early out of the dorms, BAS, BAH/OHA, Fam Sep, which equals more cash to party and live off of. And best/worst of all, that brief recess from blackout drunkenness that we all enjoyed following a TDY would be gone too. Thanks to Joint Spouse Assignment, that boozehound that has been raiding your fridge and peeing the guest bed for the past 2 years is coming with you...then when your 4/6/8 years or whatever is up, sign the divorce papers and go on your marry way like it never happened.

Do you want to transfer your benefits or use them for the type rating? I have used post 9/11 benefits for all my flight training/educational expenses. If you want to use it for a type rating at a flight training center, I think they pay upward to 10k a year for for those expenses. However, you will not get any BAH or book allowance for such training. The best route to go, if possible, is to enroll in a flight program with a local university. If the "program" you enter happens to need specific flight time such as turbine time, type rating, multi time, etc., the VA will cover all of it! I know most university programs end at a commercial/CFI rating for single engine, but I know that a few colleges have extra classes that you can take for a university charter program to gain turbine/high altitude endorsements, in which case the VA would cover since its within you degree program. They will cover any degree program and all related expenses’ including required parking passes, insurance, boarding fees, ect. as well as pay E-5 BAH +1k a year for books. I am sure you know most of this already; I am just trying to shed some light on what I know. If you are not interested in a university and only care about the 737 type rating, I would imagine you can get 10k of that covered by the VA with your 14 month eligibility, but would have to pay the rest out of pocket....The post 9/11 GI Bill is an amazing benefit opportunity. Aspiring pilots can get a degree/flight time for almost nothing, and doctors can get their first 3 years of school for free. Anyway you look at it you should be getting a lot more than expected, but enrolling in a college is the best way to maximize the benefit.