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Actually, the old T-38 TOLD was simply not valid...that was the problem with it.

Just out of curiosity, which other single-seat multiengine jets do you have experience with? Comparatively, the T-38C PMP TOLD is a friggin' nightmare next to what they'll need to know in real gray jets further down the line.

That was your bros out at TPS that came up with that gem.

I actually think the C model is pretty nice. It certainly slaughters the basic navigational abilities of the Strike Eagle, although everything about it is dumbed down and simplified for use in the training environment. It's pretty nice to be able to simply go GPS-direct to any ICAO point, as well as have 3 different bearing pointers going to three different NAVAIDs. It makes the ol "Widowmaker" out at Roswell so much easier without that TACAN-to-ILS-DME switch.

I can only hope that if I someday ever fuck up to the tune of $87 mil, that my punishment is also flavored in Admonishment.

I love it. This isn't the place to get into that argument, you say, but now lets' discuss it some more. The point is, the Raptors have some valid reasons for wanting to have 38s on hand to use as adversaries, and they're perfectly aware what limitations a T-38 brings to that training. I think they're pretty well set in the "Mike Tyson" department, not to worry.

38s are cheaper to operate and maintain, and present a smaller radar, RF, and visual signature than a Viper.

I'm pretty well aware what pork means with respect to political decisionmaking, 'broseph'...I'm still trying to figure out what it has to do with standing up a T-38 adversary unit at Tyndall. The implication was that it was a pork project, and my statement is that it's clearly not -- it is a decision that was defined by operational need, and impacts more than just one single base or Representative district.

How is that pork barrel? It saves a crapload of time/gas/maintenance on Raptors acting as their own adversaries, plus it solves a number of problems with Raptors fighting each other.

Doesn't matter -- T-6 MASS scores do work into the final class standings, and thus into awards.

Anyone have favorite locations to get cuffs and waistbands on their jacket replaced (outside of Pop's)?

And, of course, when all else fails, drop the sexual harassment/discrimination/etc charge.

I think the core issue here is a widespread problem of expectation (and entitlement) management on the part of the rank-and-file. In other words, people feel like they're entitled to a lot more than Big Blue ever 'promised' or even implied. It's been nearly 20 years since the era of banked pilots, RIFd officers, etc, from the early 90s drawdown period. We should ALL be well aware that such measures can be taken, and that we will have virtually no recourse if it happens. Wanna talk about getting shafted? Hundreds of those guys got fucked Long Dong Silver-style and for most of them it came out of nowhere. We don't have that luxury of ignorance and can't be the wide-eyed doe when the shot seemingly comes out of nowhere, because we SHOULD all know what the possibilities are. I agree that it would suck to get some of the bad deals I've read about here, heard about at the bar, and seen around the AF. But, let's face it -- there are LOTS of people who get 'screwed' all the time. If it hasn't happened to you at some point in your career, chances are it will. If you make it all the way to retirement and haven't gotten the shaft by Big Blue at some point, consider yourself lucky because you're in the vast minority. Bottom line, bros, getting screwed by Blue is simply part of the job description. Embrace it, or you'll end up living a pretty unhappy couple of years in the service.

That does suck. Reading the above (and from a fighter guy's perspective) I'm surprised at what's happened with respect to your job/assignment progression. In the fighter community, a 1st assignment dude who made IP would have a pretty high strat, regardless of being deployed a ton or not. Naturally, I have no idea about how it works in the heavy circles -- obviously things are different (and apparently for the worse, IMHO). Don't get me wrong, you appear to have gotten a pretty shitty deal (it would have been nice to know all that to get some perspective on your previous rants), but you shacked it in your 2nd to last sentence -- Blue doesn't owe any of us jack shit (good or bad). And, you're right...when your ADSC is up, you should punch with pride and not let anyone give you the slightest bit of lip about it.

I think you need to go actually read the terms of the "contract" before making such a statement/argument.

He's got a little bit of a strange theoretical implementation plan. This whole idea supposes that there is some kind of excess time and manpower in the F-15E world that could be filled by the addition of OA-X. In my experience, F-15E squadrons, just like every other squadron, struggle to fill the flying lines that they have while maintaining their queep at the same time. Guys are all ready flying their asses off -- it wasn't unusual on my latest tour to see guys tag 1,000 hours on their FIRST FLYING TOUR because of all the deployment flying. That was completely unheard of during my first spin through the F-15E community. In short, there's not some lack of flying that's plaguing the community that could be filled by OA-X. On top of that, aircrew qualification and proficiency would be a nightmare. It is tough enough to stay somewhat "proficient" in all of the various missions and weapons we all ready have, especially given the current spinup-deployment-reconstitution-upgrades cycle. Again, the author supposes the creation of two separate classes of crews...I think he'd find that there all ready is such a division, and those lesser qualified crews are called "attached" and filling those OSS, Group, and Wing jobs while staying BMC in the squadron instead of CMR. To add a completely different aircraft, and all of it's missions and weapons, into the mix will dilute the capabilities of both aircraft.

So, you were a FAIP and then you were assigned to UAvs?

That's seriously your answer to me when you later say, Yes, exactly. None of us were drafted -- we all volunteered. Everyone -- EVERYONE -- knows the score when they sign on the dotted line. Anyone who claims they didn't know are either ignorant or in denial. Too many completely lose that perspective. Not willing to serve in that UAV job? Shoulda stayed a civilian, because everyone knows the bottom line when they sign up to be in service to Uncle Sam. All of us who are line officers, when it comes down to it, can do anything up to and including grabbing the rifle and charging the machine gun nest. We ALL serve at the pleasure and convenience of our leadership, and it's not Burger King where you can "have it your way". Career hasn't gone the way you wanted? Boo-fucking-hoo -- join the club. It's called "the service" because it ain't about you.

So much for "Officers First".

The irony of it all... The last time I ran into any "customs and courtesies" issue was at Bagram, and it was with an Army 1Lt and some kind of senior NCO. I was in my AF PT gear walking to the chow hall, and walked past said 1Lt and Senior NCO. As I passed them, the NCO said (to nobody in particular, but loud enough to make it obvious that I was the target), "I guess they don't salute OFFICERS in the Air Force any more!". I stopped walking...pondered for a second if they were actually talking to me, and when I turned around they were both staring at me as if expecting me to genuflect and apologize to this obviously disrespected Army officer. Then, I thought, 'naaah...can't be ME they're talking to...why would they assume that I was either enlisted or a 2Lt?' Regardless, I fished my ID card out, walked up smartly to the senior NCO and held it about 4 inches from his eyeballs, saying, "No...in the Air Force, we don't salute officers that are two ranks lower than we are." I wish there were a better slam-dunk end to the story, but what really happened was the NCO's sails deflated, he sheepishly said, "oh, sorry sir," saluted, and turned around to walk away. I've never had any problem with any enlisted folks outside the AF, actually. It's the Airmen in our very own blue service who all seem to think we're all equal, regardless of what we're wearing on our sleeves or collars/epaulets. The ones who feel they need to shout at me across the parking lot that it's against the uniform reg to have my flight suit sleeves pushed up....

We'd all be better off if we acknowledged and embraced that our whole damn service is support...and that's okay.

Right or wrong, regardless, that's how it happened for me, and the document is there to prove it.

You sure about that? I went to my Capt board in '98 and I most definitely had a PRF written. I never saw it until well after the fact...it was handled all at the CC/exec level in my squadron, I only got my hands on a copy purely by accident (a copy was in my PIF and I saw it when I PCSd). It would be very entertaining to sit on a promotion board and sort out which officers sucked the most. I'll bet those would be some very interesting PRFs to read!

I don't think that has ever been a consideration in ANG/AFRES hiring. I wouldn't expect it to start now.

What possible motivation would an ANG or Reserve unit have to hire a passed over 1Lt??