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Reviving this thread for a quick question. I'm a civilian CSO select and just got word that my IFC 1A physical will be next month at Randolph AFB. I had a dental checkup earlier this week and I mentioned the upcoming flight physical. The dentist said he has military dentistry experience and he'd consider me to be Dental Class II because I have a crown that's only a few years old but already has a small gap. He said that if the crown is fixed, I'd be Dental Class I in his medical opinion. I'm going to try to get a new crown ASAP, but the turnaround seems pretty tight. Is Dental Class II disqualifying for FC1A standards? I've dug through AFI 48-123 but for FC1A it just mentions a few specific dental conditions that are disqualifying but not overall dental classes. If I were to fail the FC1A solely because of the faulty dental crown, is that the end of the road or is there a possibility of having the opportunity to get it fixed and then re-screened?

Just got an interview invitation from the 182AW in Peoria, IL!

They appear to be the same in my application information PDF and I double checked the e-mails that bounced and they include the dashes. I think copying and pasting from the PDF may have included non-UTF-8 characters, but manually typing it seemed to work.

I had that issue and when I tried manually typing in the e-mail address (rather than copying and pasting it) it seemed to work. I had done some searching to try to troubleshoot the UTF-8 error I got and someone suggested that. I haven't gotten a response yet but the e-mail didn't bounce back. Of course, when you actually submit the packet you'll need to use AMRDEC SAFE.

Dumb question alert. Does this mean the pendulum will probably start to swing much quicker than before with regard to frequency of CAF vs MAF drops? It seems somewhat plausible to me (a completely uninformed wannabe), given the big 11FX shortage with a training pipeline that's incapable of handling the mass influx needed to alleviate it.

Nice, the group is spreading! I made it back in August and I'm surprised by how many people have joined. The document with the grading criteria was posted here (but I can't verify its authenticity): https://www.facebook.com/groups/535955559932953/639704329558075/?match=Y3JpdGVyaWEucGRm

I believe those stats are for UFT (Undergraduate Flying Training) boards for those who are already AD commissioned officers. I'm no expert, but I've dug around this forum and airforceots.com a lot over the past few years and it seems that the OTS rated boards are a bit less competitive.

PCSM is important (possibly the most important). Have you taken the TBAS? Although with 400 hours you'll probably be in the 90s unless you absolutely bomb it.

Your PCSM score is a 95 without any flight time being factored in? That's even possible with PCSM 2.0?! EDIT: I'm dumb, I didn't read your original post very well. I'm guessing you have a bunch of PIC time from solo flying towards your PPL and from flying after acquiring your PPL and that time is being counted, and the currently not counted dual instruction time is a relatively small chunk of your overall time.

Enjoy your pilot slot. ;)

Looks like the 190FS notices are rolling out. Just got my denial e-mail. Oh well, plenty more boards to apply for.

Maybe my memory is rusty, but I seem to recall reading a long time ago that the combined AA+V+Q scores come into play for GPA waivers.

Maybe it would have been a better joke if the application due date wasn't over a month and a half away. ;)

What are the advantages of tracking T-38s if you're hired by a non-fighter unit? An easier chance of being hired by a fighter unit down the road (is that even possible before the end of your ADSC?) because they wouldn't have to send you back through UPT? More diversified experience for civilian flying aspirations? I'm not necessarily personally interested, this thread's just got me curious.

I've used the same letters for both and managed to get a couple of interviews so far. It wouldn't be a bad idea but I didn't want to bother the writers of my letters too much, especially since I'd already had them write once before for Navy OCS. Technically you'll go to OTS either way (AMS is no more), so it still makes sense for them to say "I recommend so and so for Officer Training School".

Looks like the PDF is still up at this URL even though the Careers page is down: https://www.122fw.ang.af.mil/Portals/21/documents/AFD-160426-023.pdf?ver=2017-02-01-131257-970

@bb17 and @Mustang, I know you guys are Reserve and Guard, respectively. Do you happen to know if this rumor may be applicable to AD OTS applicants?

It's not hard to find a myriad of examples of reprehensible and hypocritical behavior from those on both ends of the spectrum. There was certainly no shortage of childish behavior and ad hominem attacks from those who identify as conservative after the 2008 and 2012 elections. But unless you live in an echo chamber (and/or all your friends of different political persuasions than you truly are just absolute shitbags), I think any reasonable person is aware that the vocal minorities on both sides of the aisle are the ones who garner most of the attention. The majority of people are much more moderate (and sane) and they blend into the background while the extremist attention whores (in this case, the regressive left) work to ruin the reputations of ideologies which are generally grounded in logic that was once able to be seen as rational by even those who disagree with the finer points. Generalized shit-slinging affords no credibility to any dialogue and is one of the primary reasons so many citizens are jaded (or even apathetic) with modern politics. It causes more and more people to vote based on perceived social stigmas rather than substantial knowledge of policies. Anyway, it's been a tough election for moderates. We get shat on by the far right for not being gung ho about Trump, and shat on by the far left for not preemptively declaring it the end of the world. Disclaimer: The discussion on this forum is certainly much more intelligent than on many other parts of the web and I'm not making accusations about it in particular.

You're definitely not going to have your application ready to go by the January deadline. You're going to have to do a lot of paperwork, get your letters of recommendation ready, possibly have to get some aspects of your application approved by Recruiting HQ (which will probably take weeks), get scheduled for the AFOQT (which will probably take weeks), get scheduled for the TBAS (which will probably take weeks), get scheduled for your MEPS physical (which will probably take weeks), get your MEPS physical results approved (which will probably take weeks), and interview with the commander of your recruiter's squadron. That would already be practically impossible to do in a little over a month, plus December is generally the month with the most downtime. Not trying to be a downer, but it's a long process. Luckily you've got tons of time since you're only 23. Make contact with a recruiter ASAP (a lot of the process is just waiting for the next steps since recruiters deal with tons of applicants every single day), start studying for the AFOQT (there is a goldmine of resources on this site and around the web if you do some searching), and spend a bit of money here and there on some flight time to make sure you don't hate it and to boost your PCSM score a bit. It wouldn't hurt to also do some volunteer work and try to work your way into some more leadership roles. You're off to a good start, keep it up. If you can, I would highly recommend trying to get a letter of recommendation from someone in your ROTC detachment's cadre. It could absolve a potentially negative part of your application, and possibly turn it into a positive.

The days of getting PCSM scores of 80+ without much flight time went away with PCSM 2.0. A lot of low flight time guys saw their PCSM scores drop 20-30 points once the scoring method was updated. Some guys over on airforceots.com have done some educated speculation looking at tons of stats and it looks like a PCSM score of about 60 seems to be the highest possible now without any flight time. I have a 92 AFOQT Pilot score and my PCSM score is a 58 with 1-5 flight hours (still building more), so based on that speculation, I did quite well on the TBAS. My score projection shows 201 hours as breaking the 90+ barrier, so it sounds like you're in better shape than me. Anyway, my point is that it sounds like you did fine on the TBAS and just aren't up to speed on the new scoring model. Retaking probably isn't going to do much for you.

I applied for the UPT board.

Got a call from the 157ARW about an hour ago. Looks like I have an alternate interview spot. Strange mixture right now of excitement but trying to not get my hopes up!

When is the deadline? It shouldn't be hard to find an AME and get a Class I Medical within a couple of days, but if they explicitly said that Class II is acceptable for applying, then you can save your money. I also don't think that getting another 2 letters of recommendation in a relatively short timeframe should be difficult. Do the legwork and write the first drafts of the letters yourself, and tell the people you want signing them that they're free to make changes as they see fit. You can make up for weaknesses by being strong in other areas, but those 2 factors in particular are very much in your control.

A PDT or base visit is your best bet. I got a ride on a KC-135 during my PDT to Davis-Monthan AFB in 2008. I got to watch them refuel F-16s from the boom station - it was pretty sweet. Also got to watch A-10s strafe targets at the Goldwater Range. Fun stuff!