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Time for some older photos. Anyone remember when the ANG flew F-4C/Ds? ANG A-7s: Euro green A-10 (I wish they were still painted this way) More A-10s Disclaimer: Copyright David Brown; I did not take nor own any of these.

Great thread, glad it got revived. Not much military background, with a few exceptions: Grandfather: Army WWII vet and one of the first American boots on the ground in N Korea and also one of the first to map out the country with western maps. Second Grandfather: Naval Officer, not a pilot One uncle went to the USAFA in the 70s with hopes of becoming an F-111 pilot, but decided it wasn't for him and ended up as a contractor. If I make it, I'll be the first in my family to be an AF officer and a military flyer.

Thanks for the info and wow... I had no idea that any MIGs defected or that we even went as far as bribing their pilots.. incredible. Do you know if we did the same thing in Vietnam and received any MIG-17s, 19s, or 21s?

If I may ask because I'm ignorant and uniformed, where there MIGs that actually defected to the south during the Korean war?

Just some food for thought for any ENJJPT applicants, we had 2 cadets with pilot slots get rejected last year, then got bumped into it 2 weeks before commissioning. Not sure of the details but apparently their scores were high enough and there were a few extra slots open so they got em.

Redacted. I will stop talking and stick to the ROTC/OTS threads..

Was looking for some info on ABU wear since I just got my first set yesterday and found this. Interesting read at the bottom about the ABU development fiasco.

Full article here.

I would also give UCLA a look as well. New Student Orientation is on the 24th so you can go to both schools and compare/contrast detachments. If distance is a problem we have cadets coming from all directions who could probably give you a lift if you needed it.

I can't describe how happy I was when I spotted Red Eagles sitting on the top row of our extremely tiny bookshelf at the det last Dec (even more so because sitting next to it was Fighter Pilot: Memoirs of Col. Robin Olds which I also read.) I'd been wanting to read this for years but never the chance to pick up a copy. I Read it cover to cover in a few weeks and it was nothing shy of outstanding. I can't imagine how much effort it must've taken to piece together all of that information, some of it brand new out of the black world, into a tremendously detailed chronological story.

I'm no expert on vision reqs but once you take the oath and enter active duty you have to serve out your commitment. If you get denied a slot because of vision you still have to serve in another career field, rated or not, until your commitment is up.

Incredible.. And those weren't even the first examples... Skip to 4:00. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQEZqwvt4js&feature=player_embedded

Its these kinds of kids that give CAP a bad name. He shouldve just dealt with it and kept it to himself instead of whining and bringing everybody down. Its not really important enough to make a big deal over and its not like they were deliberately trying to offend said cadet with that nose art. If your aircraft puts warheads on foreheads and helps protect this country shouldnt you be allowed to paint whatever the hell you want on the side?

No no, I was saying how glad I am that I DIDN'T see it because I very well could have.

Terrible and such a tragic loss, I really liked Crimson Tide and Unstoppable. I was driving less than a mile from the bridge around that time. Fortunately I didn't have eyes on the bridge otherwise I might've become a witness, something I'd happily avoid.

Wow... that came off completely wrong. Let me try again. I'd love to fly in a T-38, I think it would be an incredible experience and would probably give me a really good idea about what AF flying is like. However, as a cadet I don't want to jump in front of the line and fly before any of the active duty/VIPs who have actually earned them. I also don't want to be a burden to any OSS or FS and if trying to organize the flight or me sitting in the back seat with a sterile cockpit the entire hop would do that then forget it. The mx buddy I have who actually did earn one suggested that I found out if we could fly together in the same 2-ship, which is why I'm asking for info. He thought it would be really cool and I agreed, but I straight up told him that I wouldn't ask because cadets shouldn't do that but if he could organize it through ops group then I would find out the requirements and get them done. Hes currently deployed and won't be able to find out for some time. Again this is only assuming minimum effort on the part of the OSS schedulers/pilots because their job is far more important than flying cadets around. We only want to fly 2 ship if they could fit us into their schedule, not the other way around. Sorry for not being clear. This pretty much answers it, I'll let him know.

Heres the thing - my buddy was the one who was going to "ask" ops group for a ride for me (it makes more sense for him to do it IMHO) but that doesn't mean that I can't find out about the requirements. Asking a pilot if you need a chamber card/clearance to fly with them isn't asking for a ride (and I have asked that same info elsewhere). My questions for the experts here is can that even be feasibly scheduled and are the type of rides we would take different i.e. incentive vs. orientation and therefore not feasible for the same flight or can that be waived? Believe me if it were anywhere else I wouldn't be asking because I haven't earned a ride and there are plenty of people who did earn them that have been waiting forever (my buddy's been on the incentive ride list for over 2 years). The only reason I'm asking is because he wants it, not because I want one.

I have a question and it might sound stupid so if it is please disregard. Obviously I would never "ask" for a ride as a cadet, especially considering I'm not even contracted yet. However, I have a buddy whos enlisted (mx grp) who won an incentive ride in t-38s for being top performer of the quarter. He suggested that I find out if we'd be able to go up in the same flight as a 2 ship (him in 1 jet me in the other). I was just wondering if this would be possible? If so how would I go about finding out what the requirements are? BTW the T-38s are from an operational squadron, not a FTS. EDIT: Cnat spll gewd

Again, both places look alot different now (the Galleria was completely remodeled following the 1994 earthquake) but you can still make out (sts) some of the landmarks in the movie. I'm sure we would've watched it in class at some point if it wasn't NSFW. (Its interesting to think that back then the Viper and Eagle were just coming online and F-4s were still aplenty... how things change..)

I went to the same High School that this was shot at, it looks alot different now.. Great movie for sure, they don't make them like this anymore. Fun fact: Anthony Edwards made one of his first appearances in this as one of Spicoli's friends.

Didn't know that Gen. Welsh was a Flanker killer back in the day...https://youtu.be/3aw2navqGDk Seriously though, I had never heard of him until our AS100 professor made us watch his most recent USAFA speech during class. You could hear a pin drop after the video was over. I'm really looking forward to seeing what changes he implements because the atmosphere/policies he establishes now will be what my ROTC class has to work under upon commissioning in a few years.

2 He was a visionary, and like all radical visionaries he was hated for going against the established norm and suggesting change. I can think of several other people who were also disliked for standing up and doing the same. First Dutch F-35 flew this week:

I knew someone would post that question, and the answer is no I don't have a TS clearance so I don't have a clue what I'm talking about other than the unclass stuff I was told (which is almost all public knowledge). But to hear it straight from the source was reassuring.

He admitted it wasn't perfect and they're still working a lot of the bugs out of it, but compared to the 16 and 18 (hawgs a diff story) the new capabilities it brings to the fight are game-changing.

It may not be the best/most beautiful airplane but its what my generation is going to have to get used to. I had the chance to chat with an F-35 test pilot and he had nothing but good things to say about it so I'm staying optimistic.