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  1. THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS The Staggering Toll of War By Barrett Tillman Take a flight of fancy with me. Imagine that you are commander of a great air force. It has risen to global prominence, dominating all rivals. Its unprecedented success has come at a price, however. Your chief of staff lays a memo on your desk. "Last month's casualties, sir." You pick up the first sheet ... The staggering cost of war. THE PRICE OF VICTORY B-17 $204,370. P-40 $44,892. B-24 $215,516. P-47 $85,578. B-25 $142,194. P-51 $51,572. B-26 $192,426. C-47 $88,574. B-29 $605,360. PT-17 $15,052. P-38 $97,147. AT-6 $22,952. ON AVERAGE 6600 American service men died per Month, during WWII about 220 a day. PLANES A DAY WORLDWIDE From Germany/Poland Sept. 1, 1939 ending Sept. 2, 1945, Japan's surrender: 2,433 days. From 1942 onward, America averaged 170 planes a day. Nation Aircraft Average USA 276,400 113 S Union 137,200 56 G Britain 108,500 45 Germany 109,000 45 Japan 76,300 31 How Many is a 1,000 planes. B-17 production (12,731) wingtip to Wingtip would extend 250 miles. 1,000 B-17’s carried 2.5 million gallons of high octane fuel. THE NUMBERS GAME 9.7 billion gallons of gasoline consumed, 1942-1945. 107.8 million hours flown, 1943-1945. 459.7 billion rounds of aircraft ammo fired overseas, 1942-1945. 7.9 million bombs dropped overseas, 1943-1945 2.3 million combat sorties, 1941-1945 One sortie = one takeoff (and landing – hopefully!) 299,230 aircraft accepted, 1940-1945. 808,471 aircraft engines accepted, 1940-1945. 799,972 propellers accepted, 1940-1945. WWII MOST PRODUCED COMBAT AIRCRAFT IL-2 Shturmovik 36,183 Yak 1, 3, 7, 9 31,000 + Bf 109 30,480 Fw 190 29,001 Spit/Seafire 20,351 B-24/PB4Y 18,482 Thunderbolt 15,686 Mustang 15,875 Ju 88 15,000 Hurricane 14,533 P-40 13,738 B-17 12,731 Corsair 12,571 Hellcat 12,275 Pe-2 11,400 P-38 10,037 Zero 10,449 B-25 9,984 LaGG-5 9,920 Avenger 9,837 P-39 9,584 Oscar 5,919 Mosquito 7,780 Lancaster 7,377 He 111 6,508 Halifax 6,176 Bf 110 6,150 LaGG-7 5,753 B-29 3,970 Stirling 2,383 Sources: Rene Francillon, Japanese Aircraft of the Pacific war; Cajus Bekker, The Luftwaffe Diaries; Ray Wagner, American Combat Planes; Wikipedia. BALL PARK AVERAGE: Chief of Staff to General, "Hmmm; 331 men killed, and 308 aircraft destroyed. That’s 11 people and 10 planes per day." "Uh, yes, sir. Its still the ballpark average." I’d like to see an improvement in bomber losses, those really add up. "Were working on it, General. But its sad to think that 10 young men alive today will be dead tomorrow." "You know that’s the price of doing business. Now then, what about the overseas and combat losses?" According to the AAF Statistical Digest, in less than four years (December 1941 August 1945), the U. S. Army Air Forces lost 14,903 pilots, aircrew and assorted personnel plus 13,873 airplanes --- inside the continental United States. They were the result of 52,651 aircraft accidents (6,039 involving fatalities) in 45 months. Think about those numbers. They average 1,170 aircraft accidents per month---- nearly 40 a day.(Less than one accident in four resulted in totaled aircraft, however.) Those colossal losses cost the Axis powers nothing; not as much as one 7.7 mm bullet. It gets worse. Almost 1,000 Army planes disappeared en route from the U. S. to foreign climes. But an eye watering 43,581 aircraft were lost overseas including 22,948 on combat missions (18,418 against the Western Axis) and 20,633 attributed to non-combat causes overseas. In August 1943 when 60 B-17’s were shot down among 376. That was a 16 percent loss rate meant 600 empty bunks in England that night In 1942-1943 it was statistically impossible for bomber crews to complete a 25-mission tour in Europe. Pacific theatre losses were far less (4,530 in combat) owing to smaller forces committed. The worst B-29 mission, against Tokyo on May 25, 1945, cost 26 Superfortress, 5.6 percent of the 464 dispatched from the Marianas. On average, 6,600 American servicemen died per month during WWII, about 220 a day. At end of war, over 40,000 airmen were killed in combat theatres and another 18,000 wounded. Some 12,000 missing men were declared dead, included a number "liberated" by the Soviets but never returned. More than 41,000 were captured, half of the 5,400 held by the Japanese died in captivity, compared with one-tenth in German hands. Total combat casualties were pegged at 121,867. The US manpower made up the deficit. The AAF’s peak strength was reached in 1944 with 2,372,000 personnel, nearly twice the previous years figure. The losses were huge---and they were----so were production totals. From 1941 through 1945, American industry delivered more than 276,000 military aircraft. That number was enough not only for U S Army, Navy and Marine Corps but for allies as diverse as Britain, Australia, China and Russia. In fact, from 1943 onward, America produced more planes than Britain and Russia put combined. And more than Germany and Japan together from 1941 - '45. However our enemies took massive losses. Through much of 1944, the Luftwaffe sustained uncontrolled hemorrhaging, reaching 25 percent aircrew and 40 planes a month. And in late 1944 into 1945, nearly half the pilots in Japanese squadrons had flown fewer than 200 hours. The disparity of two years before had been completely reversed. Experience Level: Uncle Sam sent many of his sons to war with absolute minimum of training. Some fighter pilots entered combat in 1942 with less than one hour in their assigned aircraft. The 357th Fighter Group (alter known as The Yoxford Boys) went to England in late 1943 having trained on P-39’s. The group never saw a Mustang until shortly before its first combat mission. A high-time P-51 pilot had 30 hours in type. Many had fewer than five hours. Some had one hour. With arrival of new aircraft, many combat units transitioned in combat. The attitude was, "They all have a stick and a throttle. Go fly 'em." When the famed 4th Fighter Group converted from P-47’s to P-51’s in February 1944, there was no time to stand down for an orderly transition. The Group commander, Col. Donald Blakeslee, said, "You can learn to fly '51’s on the way to the target. (Note: Gone West HNL QB Brewster Morgan (Morgan's Corner up in Nuuanu off of Old Pali Road) a Honolulu boy and a member of the 4th Fighter Group, told me that they actually did stand down one day to transition from the P47 to the P51. They were pissed that the old groups still had the P47 [brewster was with the Eagle Squadron in the Spitfire ... later in the P47 when the US got into it in '42] and the newer groups coming over from the US all had P51s. Blakeslee finally convinced AF to let them convert by standing down just one day. An interesting side note ... Brewster was shot down over France in '44 and became a POW ... his roommate? ... Douglas Bader ... top English ace with two wooden legs ... Bader lost one of his legs when he bailed out and was captured ... the Germans asked the Brits to send him another leg ... which they did ... BD). A future P-47 ace said, "I was sent to England to die." He was not alone. Some fighter pilots tucked their wheels in the well on their first combat mission with one previous flight in the aircraft. Meanwhile, many bomber crews were still learning their trade: of Jimmy Doolittle’s 15 pilots on the April 1942 Tokyo raid, only five had won their wings before 1941. All but one of the 16 copilots were less than a year out of flight school. In WWII flying safety took a back seat to combat. The AAF’s worst accident rate was recorded by the A-36 Invader version of the P-51 (??): a staggering 274 per 100,000 flying hours. Next worst were the P-39 at 245 and the P-40 at 188; and the P-38 at 139. All were Allison powered. Bomber wrecks were fewer but more expensive. The B-17 and B-24 averaged 30 and 35 accidents per 100,000 flight hours, respectively----a horrific figure considering that from 1980 to 2000 the Air Force’s major mishap rate was less than 2. The B-29 was even worse at 40; the world’s most sophisticated, most capable and most expensive bomber was too urgently needed to stand down for mere safety reasons. The AAF set a reasonably high standard for B-29 pilots, but the desired figures were seldom attained. The original cadre of the 58th Bomb Wing was to have 400 hours of multi- engine time, but there was not enough experienced pilots to meet the criterion. Only ten percent had overseas experience. (Conversely, when a $2.1 billion B-2 crashed in 2008, the Air Force initiated a two-month "safety pause" rather than declare a "stand down," let alone grounding. The B-29 was no better for maintenance. Though the R3350 was known as a complicated, troublesome power-plant, no more than half the mechanics had previous experience with the Duplex Cyclone. But they made it work. Navigators: Perhaps the greatest unsung success story of AAF training was Navigators. The Army graduated some 50,000 during the War. And many had never flown out of sight of land before leaving "Uncle Sugar" for a war zone. Yet the huge majority found their way across oceans and continents without getting lost or running out of fuel---a stirring tribute to the AAF’s educational establishments. Cadet To Colonel: It was possible for a flying cadet at the time of Pearl Harbor to finish the war with eagles on his shoulders. That was the record of John D. Landers, a 21 year old Texan who was commissioned a second lieutenant on December 12, 1941. He joined his combat squadron with 209 hours total flight time, including 2½ in P-40's. He finished the war as a full colonel commanding an 8th Air Force Group---at age 24. As the training pipeline filled up, however those low figures became exceptions. By early 1944, the average AAF fighter pilot entering combat had logged at least 450 hours, usually including 250 hours in training. At the same time, many captains and first lieutenants claimed over 600 hours. FACT: At its height in mid-1944, the Army Air Forces had 2.6 million people and nearly 80,000 aircraft of all types. Today the U. S. Air Force employs 327,000 active personnel (plus 170,000 civilians) with 5,500+ manned and perhaps 200 unmanned aircraft. The 2009 figures represent about 12 percent of the manpower and 7 percent of the airplanes of the WWII peak. Note: Original attributed to Barrett Tillman, although some details have been lost and typos introduced as this piece made its way around the internet.
  2. What's a "Rainmam?"
  3. Downed Airmen tell their tale "Yo, dad I need you to make a call for me"...Freaking classic! https://security.blog...tale/?hpt=hp_c3
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  5. Very poor pun management.
  6. Bogus Ranger gets 9 months in jail. https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/military/article/Bogus-Ranger-gets-9-months-in-jail-2416482.php#ixzz1hIGVQPvA
  7. Woman Born With Two Vaginas https://abcnews.go.com/Health/video/woman-born-with-two-vaginas-15349167
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  9. Van Halen showed up unexpectedly at "Cafe Wha" last week and put on a great show....David lee Roth is still one weird mother fucker, but Eddie can still beat the fuck out of a guitar better than anyone else on the planet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=932X9Vnkw8E
  10. Sorry, but I disagree. Letting your SQ/CC know there is a potential issue is a good idea and common courtesy especially given the owner is another military member. From personal experience as a SQ/CC, when something goes wrong the story is almost always distorted by the other side and giving your boss the details may help preempt confusion. I won't go into details but I had several situations where the Wing/CC called in the middle of the night and I was able to defuse any blow-back on the military member because he came to me and let me know what was going on ahead of time (someone's crazy ex-wife doing stupid shit). Also, local communities and property managers know the base will go after a military member who is not paying rent or for some other screwing around with something in a lease. If the property manager calls the base and says "these guys are occupying a house without a valid lease"...there is likely to be a day or two confusion. Talk to your boss and get word to the SQ/CC.
  11. U.K. Mom Coughs Up Cancer https://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/u-k-mom-coughs-cancer-184108754--abc-news.html
  12. Don't you mean Nav school...
  13. Great advice from all and as a dude with numerous rental properties I can tell you having possession of the property is a huge plus to your situation. At this point they can;t simply tell you to leave, you have not violated a legal lease (as long as there is not a roommate clause)...be aware if there is a section on subletting they may try to hang their hat on that line, but if all three roommates signed, it is obvious the property manager knew. SCRAis a great shield, but you should also do some research into the laws of that state, each is different and some are very friendly towards tenants...like South Carolina, it took me three months to evict a Bank Robber...yes a fucking Bank Robber who wasn't paying the rent and led the police on a high speed chase that culminated at the front gate of the Air Force Base.
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  15. How much you can squat?...are you fucking serious...how about this, you squat shit internet tough guy. Choke yourself...
  16. Cocaine is a helluva drug... Man Eats Cocaine From Brother's Butt, Dies https://www.wyff4.com/news/30037563/detail.html
  17. Sweet mother of luck! My buddy just brought me a bottle of Johnny Walker Double Black from overseas, not available here yet. Going to give it a try tomorrow night, I guess I could pass on a review.
  18. IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 1030-11 December 19, 2011 DOD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for Fiscal Year 2012, Through November The Department of Defense announced today recruiting and retention statistics for the active and reserve components for fiscal year-to-date 2012, through November. • Active Component. • Recruiting -- Year to Date. All four active services met or exceeded their numerical accession goals for fiscal year-to-date 2012, through November. o Army -- 11,260 accessions, with a goal of 11,100; 101 percent o Navy -- 4,457 accessions, with a goal of 4,457; 100 percent o Marine Corps -- 3,959 accessions, with a goal of 3,949; 100 percent o Air Force -- 5,030 accessions, with a goal of 5,030; 100 percent • Retention. The Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force all exhibited strong retention numbers for the first two months of fiscal year-to-date 2012. • Reserve Component. • Recruiting -- Year to Date. Four of the six reserve components met or exceeded their numerical accession goals for fiscal year-to-date 2012, through November. o Army National Guard -- 7,214 accessions, with a goal of 7,775; 93 percent o Army Reserve -- 5,087 accessions, with a goal of 4,335; 117 percent o Navy Reserve -- 1,302 accessions, with a goal of 1,302; 100 percent o Marine Corps Reserve -- 1,716 accessions, with a goal of 1,501; 114 percent o Air National Guard -- 1,120 accessions, with a goal of 1,275; 88 percent o Air Force Reserve -- 1,292 accessions, with a goal of 1,292; 100 percent • Attrition. All reserve components are on target to achieve their fiscal 2012 attrition goals.
  19. Just speechless as to the recent events with our mortuary affairs and the numbskull "portdawgs"...I want to throat punch these idiots.
  20. Steve, This opinion coming from a non-fighter guy, but a guy who has worn the mask almost my entire career (3800 hours), because the gunpig is unpressurized. I think the answer as always is "it depends"... First, was he hypoxic because of lack of oxygen or because of other contaminants in his bloodstream. As I recall carbon monoxide bonds with hemoglobin 230 times stronger than oxygen so simply dropping the mask may not be a simple recovery solution. There are too many unknowns to kn ow the actual situation. Second, A lot depends on his altitude at the time of the incident. As you know the higher you are the less time you have to react, and in the high 30's you may have less than 5 seconds of useful consciousness. Hypoxia is nothing to fuck around with. I can tell you I had an IFE in OEF where multiple members of my crew began to experience hypoxia symptoms as we climbed unpressurized to our combat altitude. The aircraft had just returned from heavy fuel cell maintenance. We just crossed the fence and were climbing to altitude when folks started complaining about an extreme fuel smell. Our bold face tells us to have everyone get on the hose and go 100% oxygen...we were already on the hose and within a few minutes several of my guys started experiencing hypoxia symptoms. It took us a few minutes but we determined the oxygen hoses were mistakenly soaked in J-8...I was faced with a dilemma but I order the crew to drop masks (against the Dash 1), and started an emergency descent to 10K. I got lucky and judgement carried the day.
  21. Forking Aye...mine went up $350...I also just hit a longevity milestone and we get another raise in Jan. All together = $800+....bourbon for everyone.
  22. Electronic flight bags could boost operational safety, effectiveness https://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123283385
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