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The absolute irony is Uncle Joe stood at the podium and screamed MAGA was a threat to democracy while his party spent millions promoting those same MAGA candidates in the primaries. Maintain power by any means possible.

Quoted service ceiling (before mods), is FL510.

Great question and of course the answer is "It Depends." There are many permutations and a lot depends on what you put on each platform. You previously mentioned weight, which is a concern if you try to cram too many capabilities on one aircraft. As a point of reference I can tell you in the AEW role it is possible to have the same number of missions stations as the E-3 in a Bizjet at 50K or a bit higher for 12 hours. The same aircraft configured to meet Army ISR requirements (ARES), has a similar employment altitude and endurance. For a lot of reasons 50K is a magic number when it comes to detection so I would want to avoid adding so many capes that you give up service ceiling or endurance. Have you heard of Deterrence Through Detection? The current administration has adopted this theory for countering aggression, especially in the INDOPACOM AOR. The study I linked answers the call with a fleet of 46 long-endurance RPA's for INDOPACOM and another 46 for Europe. The number of bizjets is FAR less but it serves as a template for providing complete coverage. If you were more focused on mission applications simply enabling strike, the number would be far less. One of the data point to consider, bizjets tend to have VERY high reliability (usually above 90%), so a smaller fleet would make up for the horrendous reliability rates of the E-3, E-8, and Wedgetail (there is a reason the South Koreans are divesting Wedgetail...)

What is the F-Pole at 60,000' and Mach 2 slinging an ICBM like A2A missile?

Indeed, but a HVAA CAP 500-1000NM NM behind a threat ring is hard to get to...Folks need to look into Bi-Static and Multi-static Radar...the future is here and it is a game changer. You are guilty of legacy AEW thinking, High flying biz jets (or what ever solution we settle on), does NOT have to get close, in fact, large stand off distance actually helps. the real advantage of BIZ jets is the ability to get high and see even further. That is why I argued against Wedgetail...that platform can get to the mid-30's at best. The key is going to be keeping links functional along with edge processing. Yes the Chicoms will turn off space (to a degree), but there are ways around that which is why we see the emphasis on JADC2. Being forward is important as an enabler, but we no longer have to press the HVAA cap as far forward as possible.

Another angle.

Indeed. Horrible...Prayers to the families.

I am not advocating for it to be armed, instead I would like to see a host of sensors, comms and edge processing parked in a HVAA cap.

G6500 can easily do it, and does.

Not when they standoff. You would be surprised just how far you can see when you are up at FL550.

Do it with a Bizjet for a LOT less. Modern jets like the 6500 can easily park at FL550 for 12 hours, multiple consoles, provisions for "shapes" and room to get up and move around.

Say something negative about Biden and the President will launch the National Security apparatus on you.

A few interesting stats: 1. The DNC has spent over $200M on Beto on three separate elections, $100M on last night's election alone, he has lost every attempt. 2. The DNC has spent over $100M on Stacy Adams on two elections, both of which she lost. During her most recent campaign she was raising (and spending), funds at a rate of 3:1 on Kemp, and she still lost. Do you think either one of these extremists will get the message?

It looks like the DNC strategy to promote "Trump MAGA" candidates in the primaries was successful which does indeed say Trump's influence is in decline. Let's see what his "big" announcement is on the 14th. If he gets out of the way it would be a very good thing for the GOP, sadly I don't think his ego will allow for the greater good. Personally I would go Desantis/Haley in 2024. I think the dems will eventually dump Biden and push Gavin Newsome along with another extremist.

Regardless who you vote for, make time to have your voice heard!

A great Google Earth find...simply enter 32°04'02.0"N 64°51'00.0"E to see an A-10 conducting a gun run near Sangin Afghanistan.

Dementia Man at it again...FALSELY claiming his son died in Iraq. Biden Verbally Fumbles, Twice, During Campaign Trip in Florida Fing epic song parody...Hilarious if it wasn't so accurate.

Raised rates AGAIN today...and we are running out of Diesel. Another 500 off the DOW and 350 off the NASDAQ I am cashing out for gold, grabbing my hit back and heading for my bug out site...I wonder if they have Ice Cream Cones at the compound.

Recent chat about the Russians being reluctant to employ the SU-57 in Ukraine. It is reported that they just took delivery a few more bringing their total to 12. Interesting photos reportedly first person from an SU-57. If these images are real then it is obvious there airplane are far more rudimentary and FAR less stealthy than the F-22 and F-35. Uneven seams and what appears to be standard metal screws.

VMC only, like fighter pilots?

BQZIP's Mom...

It is but it is also a Navy focused solution, dumping a crap ton of money to get it on and off the carrier. Concur, but certainly within the realm of possibility. Folks are already working on it. Boom Exactly, if we can fly Global Hawk on long duration ISR missions we can certainly handle a few tankers