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Probably the most illogical post you've ever made on this forum. You and others have been quoting the science on where life begins. If indeed it is at conception (fertilization), then IUD's are just as bad as an abortion, you are purposely killing a viable form of human life. Those who use IUDs and adhere to the Pro-Life mantra are hypocrites of convenience. As I've stated I think abortion is abhorrent and my personal vote in 51% in favor. I think if abortion is legal there should be reasonable limits like 1st term, very limited 2nd term and by medical exception like survival of the mother in the 3rd term. The post birth comparison is specious at best because someone else can step in and take care of a child post viability. I am catholic (well sort of)...and have several aunts that are nuns but I have always pushed back (as has my mom who is the oldest of 7 siblings with parents who really wanted her to become a nun). It is my opinion that religious groups are opposed to contraception and abortion because they want more followers of whatever group they are in. Regardless of my take, your argument is completely flawed, an IUD is not a passive measure, it may have been inserted before sex, but it kills a fertilized egg which is exactly the same as taking a Plan B and killing it 24 hours later. Agreed, it is a very complicated issue which lends itself to the science argument everyone was spouting on here until the IUD came up. Intellectual honesty goes a long way. I'm Irish so if you happen to hear anything on this front I would greatly appreciate if you passed it along. I simply disagree as well, 49% of me is sickened to think abortion is possible, but I live in a country and swore an oath to a Constitution that supports a government that gives freedom of religious belief, so this being a moral issue is irrelevant to me, it is a freedom choice for a woman. Again we disagree, as you attempt to impose on a woman that she must "endure" and you have made the assessment of "her risk", both statements are an anathema to the foundation of freedom in our country. I sincerely hope states don't ban IUDs, but the door is now open. The far left has obviously seized on this almost decision and will use it for political capital to say the conservatives are coming for everything. In my opinion what would have been a clean sweep in the house and the senate in November is now far less likely (although with inflation numbers like we saw this morning, even abortion won't stop the sweep). The bottom line is for all the folks screaming life begins at conception please done be a hypocrite, acknowledge an IUD does the exact same thing as an abortion. Condemn them and insist your spouse or significant other stop using them immediately.

Excuse me? Do you not understand how an IUD works? If life begins at fertilization then IUDs are indeed killing unborn babies? Since I am an idiot and you are so all knowing can you please explain how that is any different?

I presume all the fervent pro-life folks here have forced their wives to remove their IUDs.

The Russians continue to take HEAVY losses in both personnel and equipment. As the fight in the east intensifies it was expected the Russians would hold a great advantage due to the flat terrain and expected maneuver/combined arms warfare. From this video near Donetsk, that is not working out for them thanks to anti-armor weapons like Javelin and some very savvy RPA/Artillery coordination by the Ukrainians. The Russians seem incompetent but I hope that is not the take away from our folks in DoD who are no doubt soaking up every tron and lesson learned.

You mean riding the bus!

When it comes to purchasing power it most certainly does. Even without the loss of purchasing power from inflation his DOW and S&P gain are almost a wash and his "pure" loss on the NASDAQ is 11%...building back better!

How about now? DJIA 32,432 = today - 8.5% inflation = 29586 S&P500 = 4108 today - 8.5% inflation = 3759 You didn't include the NASDAQ before: NASDAQ close 20 Jan 2021 = 13,197.18 NASDAQ today = 11,700.66 - 8.5% inflation = 10706 Your boy is knocking it out of the park, it just gets better and better, we are all so much better off.

Kodak, Have you approached the Life Flight guys at Milton? I bet they have some great stories as well.

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Good job, see that wasn't so hard.

You don't support but do you condemn BLM and Antifa? Should they be prosecuted with the same veracity for burning government buildings? Honestly I didn't follow the details of the Buddy Stand off but I will take your word for it.

Reports of a Ukrainian strike a few days ago that hit a command post and killed approximately 200 Russians including a few more General Officers. Also reported that same strike missed Russian General Aleksandr Dvornikov by less than 30 minutes. He is the new commander of the Ukrainian invasion and in Putin's close circle. Russian loses are severe and have been mounting, to the point the Russians are reportedly doing a second mobilization. Ukrainian intelligence uncovers covert mobilisation of the unemployed and "Cossacks" underway in Russia. Total numbers are still unknown but estimated at over 10,000 soldiers killed. With fairly high confidence it has been reported Russia has lost at least 700 main battle tanks, a significant number.

I agree, I said the science has not been settled in the eyes of the law. They have been all over the map..abortion is ok in 1st trimester, maybe in the 2nd, not in the 3rd...to no abortion at all...to fetal heartbeat to just before birth. Now there will be 50 different interpretations. Ohio will be the first domino and their law is draconian, if there is a fetal heartbeat no abortion...many times there is a heartbeat before the woman even knows there is a heartbeat. I feel bad for any woman in the military. If she is assigned to a state that outlaws abortion, she may have no choice but to have the baby. She can't just up and fly to another state. The backroom abortion industry will sadly thrive and women will get hurt.

I believe the draft was dated April 3rd...but ok it was released on May 3rd and now we have threats and endorsement from a sitting Governor to fight and burn it down... So to be clear its cool when BLM and Antifa actually do storm and burn down government buildings or do you condemn them? Also, you can threaten violence or say fight like hell and it is cool if it come from a liberal. Thanks, it all makes sense now.

Actually your statement is BS. Copy Gadget Bent, Screw it...Fox Three anyway!

Pointless, you are confusing not only arguments but posters.

Dude, I was making a point. Smarter people than me still have to decide the legality which as well all know often differs from the science. I've heard arguments all over the place from conception to viability to birth. As I mentioned I am only 51% in favor of abortion, I think it is abhorrent, truly HORRIBLE, but I can't make the mental leap to telling a woman what to do with her body. I am religious...I have TWO aunts that are nuns, but I certainly don't agree with everything under the banner and I remove myself from secular arguments. I 100% agree that at some point there is a human there...100%. I do not support late-term abortion or what the wackos believe like up until birth. When did I compare miscarriage or a pregnant woman being murdered? I think you have crossed streams/posts (standing by apology.) It is a messy issue and the Va governor belief is again, absurd. Again, I 100% agree with you on the timeline and plan B pill. My belief is not perfect or without confliction, but somewhere early on, there is room for a woman to decide what she does with her own body.

Disingenuous? I have to be wed to your all in or all out argument? GTFO.

Not a dodge at all and brother and thanks, you just proved my point. When life begins has NOT been settled, certainly not in the court, but you automatically default to it is life and it is aborted out of convenience because that is YOUR moral belief. The only court settled opinion (Stare Decisis), on Abortion was Roe V Wade.

The problem is the government continues to show a willingness to break the law and do what ever the F they want. Breaking today The CDC reportedly monitored the location data of millions of phones

I am really looking forward to the May 3rd Insurrection hearings and prosecutions.

Funny thing, our Constitution (maybe you've heard of it), is supposed to allow me to believe whatever I choose, even if my beliefs straddle political parties and NOT be constrained by or become a prisoner of a single party.

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