Champ Kind

This. I'm sure it applies to any airframe, queep aside. Getting to fly airplanes and do the Lord's work around the world is not a bad thing.

Hell yes! Tell him to get ready for the time of his life and the best deal in the AF! Man I want to go back...... Pattaya....Clark ..... Hell, even just living in Japan! sigh..... Edit: If he doesn't drive the boat, he's a pussy

2 years 11 months commission to MR for me.

Well, I completed my Masters as a 2.5 year Captain. I guess I'm fucked.

Nsplayr, Your posts are long enough. You don't have to double-post on top of them.

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Nice dick measuring from some of our resident "special" flyers. Whatever happened to "quiet professionals"?

Will the contribution come out of base pay? If so that's a shitty deal.

Bravo. Couldn't have said it better myself, particularly the willingness to deploy versus the day-to-day grind of mindless busy work that doesn't matter.

Nice car. ....and if she knew the camera/radar was there, why didn't she notch?

I am all about having the choice, but how would that save money in the end? Are you saying that the percentage of people staying in for 20 years would diminish if there were an alternate plan (i.e., some type of TSP matching) in place? I'm not so sure. It just seems like the gov't would wind up spending more money than it is now in paying for the TSP matching for those honorably serving less than 20 years, plus the full pensions for those that make it to 20. Right now I contribute zero to TSP. I do contribute 15% of my income to mutual funds though in the form of Roth IRAs. Why would I stop contributing income in proven funds with long track records like I'm doing now in favor of TSP, even if it is supposedly going to be matched? I would love to stay in for 20. I just don't know if I can stomach it. Aside from the flying, the mission, and the people (well, some of them), the appealing thing about serving in the military is the stability (as far as the pay goes). That is what makes a lot of people scared to leave the service. Well, I'm not feeling so "stable" these days, and I'd just assume worry about my job/retirement at a place where I could just punch a clock and work according to a contract and move onto something else whenever I want versus what I'm doing now. With each passing day, the USAF is starting to feel more and more like a business and less and less like a flying military force.

AAFMAA plug: I was covered within 48 hours of clicking "apply online" on their site. Very friendly over the phone, fast electronic correspondence, and the rates cannot be beat (I'd been shopping around for a couple of weeks). I would encourage anyone to take a look at their plans. If you don't think you need additional term life insurance (aside from your SGLI), or that it costs too much, you're absolutely incorrect. For about the price of a steak dinner I am covered to the point that I know my wife and kid will be more than taken care of (mortgage, college, several years of living expenses).

Any of you old heads recall seeing THIS MUCH rhetoric about military retirement in the past? I know this topic has come up a couple of times just since I've been in, and it is always dismissed. Seems a little more real this time around.

A-freakin'-men.

Anyone ever seen a definitive explanation on what SGLI does *not* cover? Lots of rumors out there.... In using the Googles, all I was able to find was this blurb on the VA website: "How Can SGLI Coverage be Forfeited? The coverage provided by the SGLI program will be forfeited only when an insured member is found guilty of mutiny, treason, spying, or desertion, or refuses, because of conscientious objections, to perform service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or refuses to wear the uniform of such force. No insurance shall be payable for death inflicted as a lawful punishment for crime or for military or naval offense except when inflicted by an enemy of the United States." https://www.insurance.va.gov/sgliSite/SGLI/mythsRumors.htm I've been slacking for years and telling myself that SGLI is "enough", but now, especially with a newborn, I know I need more coverage. I am just trying to decide whether or not I should count on SGLI in my calculations for fear that something random may happen to me and the government would find some obscure reason to keep from paying up.

I'd be curious to see what 11/12/13XX AFSCs have overages, according to AFPC.

Dear God.... They are turning "airmanship", the basic quality in all flyers, into just another shoe clerk buzzword. I can see it now: EP: Good checkride but I'm going to have to unsat you for airmanship. Examinee: ......? EP: Yeah I noticed you didn't correct the barely out of reg sideburns on that MX troop as we were stepping. Airmanship is so much more than just flying a good plane. Blah blah blah professionalism warrioir ethos.

Come on guys.... Are you really implying that pointy-nose types don't give a shit about the American flag because they do not wear it on their uniform? Face it - MAF and CAF are not the same. Yes, we all fly for God & country and all that... but does it really matter? MAF dudes wear the flag. Cool. CAF dude's don't. So what? There are a lot more things that we do differently, too. I'll go out on a limb and say I'm sure that we could all become better by exchanging some more plays out of our respective books. But a patch? Come on.... Quit feeding the trolls on this one, boys. You make us all look silly. And, in the end, shouldn't this thread be about bashing shoe clerks and their mindless changes to uniform regulations while we are out there hacking the mish?

The only reason there were even that many people in the auditorium was because ALL other "Services" functions on base were probably closed during the performance, as they did a few summers ago.... to include the chow hall and the gym. Unfuckingbelievable.

I don't know... "Mess Dress Monday" -- has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

And here I was thinking that I would open this thread to see an e-mail from HAF saying that they were proud of the fact that we've rebounded as a force and all this stuff about professionalism and warrior ethos yadda yadda yadda and that they were getting rid of "Blues Mondays". Oh well.

^Same. No commitment to finance through them.

Aren't you a Nav?