Steve Davies

Come off it, Ned. You got in a right huff the last time you posted here and did, ISTR, cancel subs (mine included). Would have been wiser to have wiped the slate clean and then invited Baseops members to post on your forum. As it is, your repeat of the throwing toys out of pram routine reflects poorly on you. You can't blame people for straight talking as a result.

Yeah, my bad! Good to know. It could be pretty spectacular.

Report out: More: https://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/dec/22/no-punishment-navy-pilots-who-dipped-helos-lake-ta/

225+ posts of disbelief and people crying out for justice, and you roll over and die because of the comments of one poster? Doesn't sound like someone making a career in politics to me. I'm a Brit and don't know anything about US politics. But, if this were an issue involving the RAF, I'd be supporting my MP and would be quite sure that there are plenty of things he could be doing *in addition* to looking into this. I'd remind him that this incident damaged international relations with a foreign power on whom our nation was reliant in order to fight the global war on terror; that it reeks of some kind of nepotistic corruption that his constituents may not be happy about paying for; and that the individual concerned has made a mockery of the support available to combatants with real PTSD, and continues to cost his constituents hard-earned taxpayer £s that could be spent on more worthy causes. Personally, I am pretty interested in seeing whether the Wikileaks cables will shed any light on this.

This thread is brilliant. Allegedly, the one on the left was the UAV pilot, the one on the right the sensor operator.

No. Based on the information in the AIB, it's very easy to deduce who was sitting where and who was actually at the controls. While I would not have 'named and shamed' in the way that the AF Times has, I also think that guys here have to be pragmatic about the fact that it is going to happen.

FIFA President Blatter is a huge moron. His comments about Middle Eastern countries becoming more open (to gays!?) just shows that his only concern in life is to make money whatever it takes. He'd probably say the same if Iran had won the right to host.

Nice work. Those guys really appreciate it.

Love seeing the U-2 guys interacting with the UK spotters at Fairford. Great sense of humour.

Valid. I thought the Timmy Martins quote was inspired.

Stract The full AIB is not linked to (at least that I can find), but has been released: https://www.pacaf.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-101210-079.pdf What was the point of having the MLM on the practise? It is not explicitly explained in the AIB, and since it does explicitly state that he was seated in the load master seat (and not on the flight deck), it seems like a valid question.

I am curious to know how the AF and the guys in the squadron support the families in this sort of situation.

Thanks, Toro.

Given the comments above about the OG CC, and the report's mention of procedural guidance and programme oversight, does the release of the AIB mean that there has not been any disciplinary action in the Wing?

I don't get it. In the UK, if you are suspected of using someone else to write your academic assignments, they pull you into a room and give you an interview on the subject. Is he really saying that academics in the US are not wise to this practise and cannot defend against it?

The original Aggressors of the 1970s lost four T-38s and six pilots due to delamination of the MLG doors when at 0g and negative g loads. They realised it was unsafe as an adversary platform, which is why they got rid of it. Has that particular limitation now been addressed?

I am guessing that was Gen. Ashy. I understand that he made few friends when he was the TFWC CC at Nellis.

You wear contacts inside that space helmet? What do you do if one feels a little unsettled or feels like it might pop out?

https://www.mlive.com...s_capt_jef.html

Also on Elmendorf's website: https://www.jber.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123231162

Morons can't even spell YMCA!

Why no NC-135W? I jest. Your models look incredible.

Actually, that's not true. El Dorado Canyon had nothing to do with supporting boots on the ground, nor did the decade-long OSW and ONW.

Hmm. 1) Bader lost his legs because he didn't follow peacetime training rules (and it very nearly cost him his life) 2) Bader only got back in the cockpit because there was a a war on and we were exceedingly short of pilots I suspect that you know better examples to cite, Mike.

VRS?