Clark Griswold

Wanted to circle back to your question and kind of answer it rhetorically. Gonking some on this, dual qualification is thought of in the AF as a one off or seldom thing, usually temporarily but what if it is how we are to build depth and breadth simultaneously? Why not change the paradigm that you are an F-16, MQ-9 or C-130 pilot but a fighter/recon/mobility pilot? That we will accept and encourage pilots on those career tracks to fly and lead in those fields not just in one airframe? This basically obliterates the justification for collateral or additional duties (not necessarily a bad or good thing) but make this part of the Operational or Technical career track. Just initial thoughts on this, assignments would likely be 6 years at one location (could be good or bad), crew position would likely not be reciprocated without formal training (i.e. AC in one is not AC in the other unless single seat but then flight lead in one would not be flight lead in another) and the intention would be for this to be used for SME development, not just in an airframe but a mission set...

Coming from behind (sts)... https://www.dodbuzz.com/2017/07/31/another-light-attack-jet-offering-joins-air-forces-oa-x-fly-off/

Possibly, particularly for an RPA / manned aircraft pairing.

Legit analytical question. My primary response would be a philosophical one, to arrest the drift of the officer cadre to equating the administration and management of the Air Force to their Operational Skill. By having an intense period of focused operational duties, ideally in the first six years or so of an officer's career, it may be possible to inoculate a cohort again queepitis. My secondary response is this could be a legitimate strategy to get Big Blue to acquire programs/systems that they are reluctant to by giving BB a less resource intensive method of having a capability but not being obligated to sustain it like favored or primary capabilities. No - just asking the forum for opinions. I was discussing this with others in another thread and this sidebar topic was going full deflection so I thought moving the discussion to a dedicated thread was better. Copy - being safe and basically capable might be the best COA for the secondary aircraft. If that is the approach, then really what I think it lends itself to is a companion manned aircraft for RPA and staff assignments. The intentions then would be morale, skill maintenance and operational community engagement (rated staff dudes flying with the line enough to remember where they came from and keeping that in their cross check). Agreed and well thought out. This would not be for everyone and not being chosen or not participating (declining an assignment with dual qualification as a duty) could not be viewed or documented as a negative against a member. Thinking a bit on this: Instrument qual would only be required in one aircraft and all instrument events would dual log from aircraft to aircraft. Basic flight events (takeoff, night landing, etc...) could be dual logged. Mission sortie events would be the kicker, RAP count would have to be adjusted in the tables but not so much to be meaningless. Dual qual assignments might require on-premises simulator capability or at a minimum part task trainers.

New thread for the sidebar topic in Track Select and Assignment night threads... Dual qualification, is it time for the USAF to try it with either some test wings with platforms / qualification levels that could support this for operational needs, manning retention/morale, crew force development (varied experience, technical proficiency, expanded talent pool) and efficiency? I put efficiency last as I think that it is probably the last factor that should be considered for a strategy for implementing dual qualification as a semi-general rule than an a seldom or unique policy. Considering what it takes to make and maintain an aviator - aero rating, qualification & certifications, currency, proficiency and eligibility-viability (catch all term for medical qual, security clearance, career profile, etc..) - how could you make this work? Not whether you it is a good idea or not but how could you build the professional community of two MDS's to be realistically viable? IMO there are some compatible pairings: LAAR & RPA, Fighter/Bomber & Aggressor/Trainer, RPA & Companion Training Aircraft (T-6 or a like platform)... All of this dependent on being intentionally and carefully implemented with no hesitation to do things differently than are typically done, like maintaining full MQT in one platform and BMC in another with a spin up if needed to fully generate for the other MDS. Thoughts, comments, jabs, smart a$$ comments requested but come from the perspective that you were at your desk at 1629(L) on Friday and the good idea fairy e-mails you this and you are to brief COAs for this at Monday's stand up and failure / not doing it are not COAs... you have to have some kind of plan.

True - the temptation / habit to build it for everyone and it ends up serving no one is there but there have been times where we got it right My two cents would be for splitting the baby to get Congress to buy this concept - systems built mainly in some states and stationed in others to spread the wealth but keep the execution clean(er) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Valid but the employment in combat between the two airframes in discussion (a LAAR and an RPA) are engaging in similar missions using similar sensors, could be made to use similar nav / displays (particularly for the pilot), same weapons, etc... If this was done in a non-AF way, with careful thought and strategy, it is my opinion it could work.

Possible but I would at least like the AF to try - an experimental group with a cross section of subjects based on previous flying experience, qualifications, recs, etc... to see if it is viable, how to balance that with real world responsibilities to the customer I don't know Another idea for this (dual qualify) would be do both crew positions in the manned platform require dual quals status? Could you just require the CSO or Pilot to maintain dual qualification not both? Would that be beneficial to the mission, needs of the AF, etc while responsibly managing risk? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This I am hoping for a Tigershark situation in reverse so Big Blue can grow a brain and buy it also. It may take an FMS sale to spur a domestic buy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Valid point(s) but I wonder if the problem is not the concept of dual qual but the current execution / concept of it. We (the USAF) have always executed it as an afterthought or in response to a manning crisis / operational need instead of anticipating it or planning to make it part of our strategy to deliver a Core Function / Mission Set. Flight deck commonality, synchronized and reciprocative training, tactics coordination, etc... these and other factors could be planned in advance to execute dual qual way better than the concept now of marriage to a faithful wife and having a girlfriend on the side... one is suspicious and the other only wants more, there has to be a better way of doing this.

KSA may be a Scorpion buyer: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/saudi-arabia-considering-scorpion-deal-textron-chie-439516/

Probably so - just a guess but is this gun testing/demonstration for price conscious potential operators? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Scorpion testing a gun(s) on the jet https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/paris-scorpion-tests-20mm-cannon-ahead-of-oa-x-438703/ Article doesn't specify if they are incorporating it (20mm) into the airframe - anyone know if this is the case? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No argument in fact I thought the first wing was better for the mission Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Curious as to why you think that - do you think it should be low wing or with more sweep? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Copy that, just curious and thought it was very rare if ever.

Just curious if there has ever been an Army pilot (regular officer) do an exchange tour with the AF or Navy/USMC? Rotor or fix wing (accepting service awarding or honoring a fix wing qual)? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

How I think the relevant players want things: NK regime - status quo plus protection money China - status quo SK - status quo with naive engagement USA - status quo and maybe some ransom paid for less belligerence (quietly) Unless the Young General miscalculates whatever provocation or shenanigans he is attempting to pull off the status quo will probably continue absent something coming in from left field Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Really close air support https://www.dukeroboticsys.com/ https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/israel-is-buying-drones-that-fly-with-machine-guns-1796680707

35 Helmet Cam footage https://fightersweep.com/8242/watch-actual-f-35-helmet-cam-video-footage/

Then I'm betting AL and WI Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agreed and as to a pre-emptive strike, we can't bomb away the knowledge already resident in the DPRK's scientists and technicians and unless we want to use tactical nukes there is no strike option that at the onset of hostilities that can destroy and / or degrade their WMD capabilities fast enough or with enough surety to prevent a major population center (Seoul) from being hit (chem or nuke). So does that mean we're (SK, USA and Japan) stuck with being occasionally attacked by this regime like the SK Navy ship the ROKS Cheonan or USS Pueblo and having to just take it? No, respond tactically and forcefully in a controlled manner to provocations but it is time to pull out of the same thinking and strategies that is just continuing the stalemate at the macro level. I am not sure this is possible or would work but I know if we are serious about putting some serious cracks in the foundation of NK, we need to do different things and this is pretty damn different: How To Stop North Korea: A Geoeconomic Approach Strategic patience as the former POTUS framed it is not working and if we keep saying that the NK regime having nukes and/or developing ICBMs is unacceptable then we need a new approach. If our recent past has taught us anything, if we do get involved or find ourselves involved, time is not actually on our side. Start trying like hell to crack the foundation.

Get one of these too... https://www.xtiaircraft.com/home/

Not sure - I have not heard any RUMINT AF article linked below says after their initial candidate bases were identified in the spring of 17 that they just need an Environmental Impact Study then they will announce - approaching the end of the FY I think they could announce but that is just a WAG https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1022605/air-force-releases-candidate-installations-for-next-f-35a-bases/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Antares concept airliner 100 PAX off a 3000' rwy with low noise https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/culture/commuting/antares-an-aircraft-concept-based-on-a-nasa-design/article16232559/ https://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2013-06/future-flight-new-designs-will-end-congestion '