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You think pro gun folks don’t have the courage or intellectual honesty to condemn mass shootings? I’m struggling to understand the connection here.

Manipulating words or language is a key tool in promoting agendas. There are lots of examples of this like global warming/climate change, gun control/gun safety, woman/birthing people or words used to intentionally confuse the topic of gender. The abortion argument is no different. You can see it in words or phrases like unwanted pregnancy vs abortion or any of the terms used to describe life other than baby or human, etc. Pro-abortion people know that abortion takes a life. They just choose to direct the conversation somewhere else because most people don’t have the courage or intellectual honesty to just say that they believe in abortion for convenience whether it kills a baby or not. I’d have more respect for their argument if they did. Arguments like rape, incest or even the health of the mother are just distractions. The vast vast number of abortions are simply out of convenience. And with the progress made in medicine, the baby is delivered early or operated on in the womb. I’ve got a buddy who has a daughter who was born at 24 weeks due to the mother’s pre-eclampsia. She’s a normal healthy 6 year old now. I never really gave much thought to abortion one way or another until I saw her in the NICU. Seeing that completely changed my view.

BLM, teachers unions,Twitter, Facebook, ANTIFA, the media, etc...

Don’t forget that the city paid the Floyd family 27 million dollars during jury selection. 2 jurors were removed at that point if I remember correctly. What I don’t understand is the racial component. All of the civil unrest is fueled by the narrative that, once again, we have a white cop killing a unarmed black man because he was black. That’s all our President and Vice President spoke of during their remarks. Most of the high profile race baiters were standing with Floyd’s family during their presser. It’s talked about so much that people don’t even question it. In reality, there is zero evidence at all that this was racially motivated. There were no hate crimes alleged or charged. The prosecution said it was Chauvin’s ego that killed Floyd. Even with zero evidence of a racially motivated crime it’s the center of the focus of everything you hear. I thought Biden and Harris’s comments were some of the most irresponsible comments ever made by someone at their level. I really do. It adds fuel to country that is already incredibly divided. It completely erased any efforts - which they haven’t made - to bring the country together and to heal. It adds a ton of weight to the anti cop narrative being pushed. Not to mention, it gives credibility to those race hustlers who push these false narratives. Chauvin’s actions were inexcusable. Focusing on a made up racial component of the situation takes the thought and energy away from the legitimate police reform we should be focusing on, like more funding and more training.

https://www.rt.com/usa/521381-maxine-waters-brooklyn-center-curfew/ Maxine Waters shows up in MN encouraging people to be more confrontational. Of course the message to people can’t be to not commit aggravated robbery, not to break the terms of your release by being in possession of a weapon or to not flee while the police are lawfully arresting you. Nope. Can’t say any of that.

I absolutely believe big tech/MSM/etc are doing any number of things in concert with the power players in our government to shape, swing and direct public opinion in their favored direction. Examples of this are literally everywhere. And yes, they do it for profit, ie their bottom line.

This is all about money.

And by doing so, verified the accusations you listed. It’s big tech/social media/MSM censoring the truth and opposing opinions. Doubling down is really all they can do at this point. Forceable suppression of opposition is one of the hallmarks of fascism. This is modern day fascism.

Policing has been discussed in this thread before so I’ll drop this here. Sounds like the female officer involved in yesterday’s shooting of Daunte Wright thought she was firing her taser but fired her weapon instead. It is another incident involving someone with a warrant resisting arrest. But it’s still a very tragic incident for sure. This happened just a few miles from where George Floyd was killed. This couldn’t have happened in a worse place. It’s going to be an interesting night in Minnesota. It has also been interesting to hear some of the defense’s arguments in the Floyd case. There’s a camera angle that shows Chauvins knee on Floyd’s shoulder and admissions from Drs that describe how fentanyl/meth can cause asphyxiation. Floyd was complaining about not being able to breathe before he was on the ground. Reasonable doubt is the standard. I don’t say this in support of Chauvin, I’m saying I’m not sure he is going to get a fair trial especially with what’s happened with the shooting yesterday. That city can’t afford for Chauvin to walk. Knowingly convicting potentially innocent people due to fear of a mob certainly isn’t the answer either.

And it’s all owned by the left/dems. F’ing crazy.

Like Russian collusion?

That’s exactly right. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are as pure as the driven snow.

Thank you for being honest. #orangemanbad

Here’s a good commentary on why it matters. He brings this Lil Naz X character into the discussion.

I wonder if he responds to questions in high level meetings like he did at that press conference. I doubt he’s a different person in those type of environments vs a press conference. Scary scary stuff to me.

Are we automatically assuming this hypothetical racist is white? When presented with the hypothetical scenario I bet the other assumption immediately made is that the racist is a male.

That’s exactly the point. The Commander in Chief shouldn’t be commenting on this. Uniforms designed for a fraction of the total force shouldn’t rise to his level. I’d like to hear more about strategy, procurement, budgets, technology, manning, etc from the boss.

The “nothing to see here” argument may work if it were not for the cumulative amount of hypocrisy and deceit being displayed today by the media and in politics. It is everywhere and people either willingly ignore it, are part of it or are misinformed by those who willingly ignore it or are part of it. I believe it’s also why Biden doesn’t take questions. His handlers know he’s not up to the task of answering for any of it without exposing the blatant hypocrisy. Transparency and the truth will send this house of cards crashing down. And that will be good for the majority of American citizens regardless of which side of the aisle you’re on.

Been doing this long enough now to see the slide from something I dreamed of doing all my life to something that is absolutely unbearable at times. Dad flew for 28 years before me and both of my grandfathers lived into their mid 90s. Both were WW2 vets and I knew them both well. I listened and learned from them and their stories. There’s a reason BO.net has seemingly endless threads with countless pages devoted to the self induced shenanigans of the military/AF. Truthfully, I wasn’t even sure which thread to post my response in. But, it’s the Tucker issue that has my attention so I’m posting here. Ben Shapiro has a really good take on the situation. Once again, he’s spot on. His point, as well as Tucker’s, is that the military has lost focus. The simple question is, what makes the military more lethal and more effective? There’s a reason we have standards. Those standards start at the very beginning of service. It actually starts in the selection process for service in the military and continues on through basic training. Those selection processes are designed to weed out people who are not fit for service. Am I saying that pregnant women should not serve? Of course not. But, I do agree with Tucker and Shapiro when they speak of this loss of focus - or misguided focus of our current military leadership. There’s a shitload of energy that is fired in the wrong direction by military leadership right now. I returned from my 6th deployment to the Middle East exactly 8 days ago. It was another 120 day deployment which is standard for my community. It was my 11th deployment if you consider other parts of the world. This time was much different though. I’m Guard so entitlements and pay matter. We didn’t get our tricare 6 months out. We didn’t get paid on time. We didn’t get hostile fire pay as we should have. The AF had NO consistent plan for dealing with COVID and how that related to getting to the theatre. There was a major battle between our home unit and the deployed wing commander as to who is responsible for the health of our folks and where they quarantine. We ended up quarantined for 2 weeks at an Army base. Other units didn’t have to. I could go on and on. And this was not on our local wing’s level of responsibility. This was absolutely the fault of big AF. Things were no better in theatre. Every mission we flew included issues with flight plans, local services (water, power), local pax services, local aerial port, local trans and the same could be said at EVERY stop we made around the theatre. It was a complete shit show from start to finish. Day after day after day. My point of all of this is not to sport bitch. It’s this. About a month into our deployment, the AF Chief of Staff, CMSgt of the AF and the Sec of the AF came to our base for a visit. I was one of the lucky ones who was invited to hear them speak. I couldn’t wait. I had many questions to ask based on the shit we’d been through leading up to the deployment and in the first month that we’d been there. There were about 5 questions asked that were pre screened. That was it. They spoke for about an hour. Only about 10 minutes of it were them talking about issues related to the theatre, procurement, budgets, manning etc. Nearly their entire speeches consisted of social justice issues. I was struck by the feeling of being preached to by two women and a black four star general about being held back. I really struggled. Everyone did. After a quiet ride back to the squadron we talked about it. I don’t see and have never seen issues that they spoke of. And their success proves we get it right as a whole. I get it. My view from a flying squadron isn’t the end all be all regarding issues in the military. I’m sure my squadron is very different than a ship in the Navy or a barracks full of 19 year old paratroopers in the Army. But, I am getting really tired of fixing big picture problems at the point of execution while being bitched at about things I don’t see my military having problems with. There is a lot of mis-directed energy in the military and our society. I think that was Tucker’s point. And I agree with him.

Commentator Matt Walsh recently pointed out that Fauci is now very famous and will soon be rich, if not already. He is in the spotlight and has millions of people listening to him. Nobody knew his name a year ago. That all happened to him overnight. He’s not going to willingly give any of that up now that he has it. He’s done the second he declares COVID a thing of the past. It’s in his best interest to keep this going as long as he can.

Just got around to reading that article. Lengthy for sure but well worth the read. I’ve never agreed with the folks out there who claim widespread voter fraud, voting machine manipulation and the other various conspiracy theories. I voted for Trump and I recognize that he lost but not for those reasons. I do believe there was a calculated effort to defeat him using a combination of the main stream media, big tech, social media, Hollywood, unions, big business and the dem party. This article details those coordinated efforts. They held nothing back and they won. The playbook they used in the election is really no different at all in their everyday push to move progressive issues forward. It’s exactly what frustrates and disenfranchises conservatives every single day. You have to give the dems credit. They never take their foot off the gas.

You have to be the biggest condescending asshole on here dude. For fucks sake, please stop.

Good article. I recently watched this video which hits on some similar points related to unifying the country. I certainly don’t agree with all of Hedges views, but he has some very interesting observations. He is critical of the right and the left in this piece as well as the media/big tech. It’s definitely worth the watch if have an hour or so.

The ONLY thing the left did for the last 4 years was sow distrust in the Trump administration. I agree with everything else you said.

I know there is a Tulsi thread on BO.net but I think it’s more relevant to the many conversations going on here. She touches on a lot of topics in this interview and speaks of her personal experiences in DC. I also applaud her courage to speak like she does. It can’t be easy.