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For posterity, I am on the side of arming the Ukrainians to defeat the Russians instead of fighting that with American or western European troops, but the world is never so perfect as to have a beautiful hollywood ending. Anyone wondering where this is going: watch Charlie Wilson's War, consider our experiences in Afghanistan, and then watch Send Me. I don't think it foreshadows what will come in Ukraine, but that sequence does show the outcomes of decision making that fails to analyze possible impacts of 2nd and 3rd order effects of our actions or in-actions. I'm sincerely hoping Ukraine comes out the other side of this as a free democratic nation allied to the West. Even if they do, if we think the weapons that are getting sent there right now WON'T at some point kill westerners, we're naive. If that's the cost of doing business, then so be it. Hopefully we at least acknowledge and prepare for that outcome. If ever we needed competent, courageous, and wise leaders to make tough and messy moral decisions, it's now.

Holy hell. This thread is what happens when graduated assistant-to-the-deputy group commanders are now 737 FOs and no longer have O-3 execs to pontificate at concerning their immense, hard earned, and expansively broad wisdom. Oh yeah, BrightNeptune: You should go home. You're drunk.

Brilliant scientist. Also a narcissistic d-bag who no one voted for yet somehow set national economic and social policy...as a medical expert... Good riddance.

...if this were a roll call...you'd have 10 pool balls in your face (no sts)...and I'd still be puking... There are standards and then there's ClearedHot... But then there are standards

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I move that Random Guy be read-only or flat out blocked from this thread. As much as we want to hear about his timeshare opportunities and how we should invest in doge coin, this is about the Ukraine war and not his idiotic drivel.

Ah, yes. We all miss Rainman.

ever so slightly

I got the lovely joy of a go-around at Tarin Kot one bright evening in AFG. Turns out that firing range off the departure end was no joke. Got to watch multiple items riciochet flying off the (whatever the i'msureitwasn'taBMP) target on either side of us...and 2 items THROUGH our aircraft. Yeah...they never talk about what happens AFTER all that led lands on target. Big sky theory... MX wasn't happy about it...but we brought all 8 of those tails home with combat patches and hail damage waivers. Thank you Mr Lockheed for the 2.5 safety factor. Writeup: Missed approach followed by 'merica penetrating our aircraft. NSTR fun fact: This happened 2 days after my profile picture was taken.

Oh, we're posting selfies now?

Truth. 5Y Alumni who is now a 5Xer. Seems like half of this past year's classes at Brown have been Atlas grads. All but one of my Atlas indoc class has now moved on.

Months, not years.

Welcome to my latest installment of DON'T TAKE THE BONUS

This one belongs in the monkeypox thread...because that's a way to get monkeypox

edit: I went over to the money thread...time I'll never get back...and realized what Random Guy really is, so I'll stop feeding the troll.

Hold up, you're saying MEM-ANC is the worst leg in your system? Must be a hell of a system!

@Random Guy Has anyone ever described you as 'punchable'? After reading your posts, I'm guessing you're quite punchable after the first five minutes of conversation.

Preach. Well, shortly at brown we'll vote in a 2 year extension that'll bump up the baseline pay for the group. We're team players like that. Thank the new Teamsters leadership.

All of them

Any Purple People want to chime in? Sounds like you guys aren't too happy about contracts over there either.

I feel this more than I should...

...so...like Castle Anthrax type loopholes? ...you're not wrong...

That's clearly him on take 14 as he's finishing the second bottle.

I've considered finding orders to close out my remaining 3 years of AD to get the full retirement...and then I log-in (more correctly: I ATTEMPT to log-in) to a AF computer...and my decision to bypass the AD retirement solidifies again. As to probation, Huggy shacked it. Don't risk excessively extending probation. That next 20 year multi-million dollar career in the airlines simply isn't worth the 12 months of orders and absoluteluy zero protection that the USAF will give you in the event your new airline fires or furloughs you because of COVID-23 or whatever insanity is next. A few days here and there for drill weekend is manageable. Dropping 3 years at 6 months in is hanging it out on the line in what has proven to be a feast-or-famine industry.