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Some of you guys are hell bent on demanding someone's head. Doesn't seem to matter who however.... Do you think the Generals were the ones saying "yep that's a secondary, good strike" or that maybe it was some folks sitting in a box? or imagery analysts? or nerds on a staff? Those at the top can be ultimately responsible, but the guillotine won't fix any of the problems.

Estimates of R0 for the delta strain have wide variation, depending on where the study is conducted. https://academic.oup.com/jtm/advance-article/doi/10.1093/jtm/taab124/6346388 The estimates for England are 5-8 per the above link, and the lower end of that spectrum (5.2) with a secondary attack rate of 4.3%. There are CDC studies that show a much higher secondary attack rate in some cases, but not others: (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7028e2.htm) so there's still quite a bit of "who knows?" Probably safe to say it's still bad, so more contagious is more badder. I am curious where they got their efficacy of masking percentages and how they broke that out from social distancing efforts and the various lockdown strategies.

This was the underlying message in the ACLU position from just last year stating that vaccine mandates were not a good idea. Ironic that their twitter monkeys have been preaching about mandates of late.

I assume it's mostly US gov requirement and task specific. But, Kabul (obviously now gone) and Korea (for an exercise) have recently required it. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Multiple locations are requiring a COVID vaccination. Who knows how long that will last.... Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

I suspect most people on the anti-abortion bandwagon in this regard weren't aware of how widespread the fetal cell line usage is. As far as kicking people out, for flat out refusal of course. I meant for a successful religious accomodation request, that person will likely be useless for deployments since they won't meet entry requirements. May or may not result in discharge, depends on job. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

I would guess it will make you non deployable. With all that potentially comes with that. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Here's some fun math: Assuming an infection fatality rate of .4-.7, and going off reported deaths, the virus has penetrated into the US population in the neighborhood of 30-45%. The population write large is ~53% fully vaccinated. Obviously neither natural or vaccine immunity is 100% (thanks mutations). A recent initial study indicated the Delta variant R0 mean was 5 (range 3.2-8) which would mean we'd need somewhere around 80% (range, 69-88%) immunity for herd protection. Doesn't take into account state by state vaccination rates, or area under the exposure curve (NY got shellacked initially, CA/FL not so much). Maybe my cynical prediction of another year of this shit was too cynical......

Polio/TB: much much worse than COVID. Measle/Mumps/Rubella/Chickenpox: Not nearly as bad as COVID normally, disproportionately affects kids however. A COVID vaccine requirement for public schools/military, is perfectly in line with normal practice in America. Mandatory vaccines generally is less common. Smallpox the last time? I honestly don't know. Question for the "anti-vaxxers," something I've been thinking about a bit: If the Faucis of the world had been completely transparent instead of shaping their comments to the public to get a desired behavior. If the politicians hadn't been completely hypocritical. If the public had reimbursed businesses for loss due to public action. Etc. Would you be as vehemently against the vaccine? a mandate? In other words, how much of your position is based on "not one more fucking inch" vs opposition to this specific thing? Being honest with myself, I don't think I would have sneezed if all that went away, and this was solely about a mandatory, free vaccine.

Mandatory vaccines for military is a readiness thing, not to protect us. When all of your crew chiefs go on a two COVID vacation, it screws up training. All of our vaccines are about keeping the force viable to fight. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Weird. I don't have a subscription to the times. Maybe just try googling "new york times covid"

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html Pretty good visualizations and whatnot on there.

Vaccines reduce the likelihood of catching a disease, and if you do, improve your chances. If individuals are less likely to catch a disease, then they're less likely to spread it when viewed as a member of an aggregate pool. Vaccines as a public health tool aren't really about you, they're about the whole community. The part you highlighted talks about case and vaccination rates. If a state has a current high case rate, it makes sense they would also have a high current vaccination rate. People see others getting sick, then go get the shot. I don't know which article you're referencing, but CNN has multiples talking about this.

You're talking crazy. If everyone where vaccinated, the case load would absolutely be reduced by a large amount. It would not be reduced to zero. But it would be a lot less. Based on the single data point of 1918, I figure we've got another year of this. So hold on to your butts everyone.

Take a look in the mirror. Your self-righteous rage is creepy.

There's a line of thinking among those who've never been in the military but are steeped in political thought. Namely that civilian control of the military means that men and women in uniform are supposed to be more than apolitical, they should be soulless cogs in the machine, there to do the bidding of whomever gets elected. To a degree it's understandable, a standing military the likes of the DoD is unprecedented. To an outsider we are a weird bunch, and in their perception of how it all works, wield more power than any block of humans ever. Soulless cogs are less immediately scary, even if that's a larger risk to a free republic in the long run. WaPo Opinion Article is an example to add to what CH posted. All that said, Scheller's second abandoned bus post does creep me out a bit.

Please stop quoting the window licking moron. It defeats me blocking him.

After dumping the pickling liquid out, put a paper towel into a bowl, on top of the jar, with the cap slightly unscrewed. Then flip the whole thing over and put it back in the fridge. It'll drain the rest out over night.

Stop being a smug ass. I didn't say anything about the vaccine. Most people who stamp their feet and refuse to get it are being dumb. That isn't relevant. You asked about how many raw numbers was too much in response to an argument using percentages. My point was if you're going to ask an open ended question about high raw numbers without context, someone else can do the same in the other direction. If the US population was 1B, nearly 200k would die of the flu every year.

The irony... Quibbling when a test pilot and 11F tells you it's legit, then you start slinging WO around. With no idea who else is talking to you. Take a breath, maybe if everyone is telling you you're wrapped around the axle about nothing, just maybe it's you. And yes, I put the UH-60J in my bio.

How much financial pain are we willing to accept? If you could save every single person from covid, but the cost was complete economic collapse, even then? How many dead Americans is a small enough number to not rise above your need to act threshold? It's obviously a cost/benefit analysis. But if you're going to point to the raw number of deaths, you need to be able to defend the number itself.

Some of you guys are just looking for shit to be mad about. I flew one flight in a Japanese UH-60J, I made sure that ARMS folks put that thing in my flight records cause I thought it was cool. Should I feel terrible about it? Give me a break.

Those actors are taking advantage of something that already existed. The change dates back about a decade, to the introduction of smart phones really. Arab spring, yellow jackets, indignados, occupy wall street, original tea party, etc. The distrust of traditional institutions of power pairs with their inability to hide or spin their failures to live up to promises of competency in the social media/smart phone age. "Combatting it" will be a matter of those institutions learning to deal with the new reality. Again, I highly recommend reading "The Revolt of the Public." Martin Gurri, a former CIA analyst, released it in 2014 and it is remarkably prescient.

This isn't driven by malicious conspiracy driven mustache twirling "bad actors." This is the mob driving the politicians. Born of the internet and social media. There are analogous crazy theories on the cultural left. But you're right that it's dissention. Read "The Revolt of the Public"

This is beginning of an Afghan civil war. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk