C model T-38 got heavier, and the CG shifted forward due to all the equipment added to the nose. From a handling perspective, this reduced instantaneous and sustained turn rate and overall nose authority. While the PMP engines improved the TOLD a bit, they also increased form drag, fuel consumption, and noise. Today the jet is even more fuel constrained than before, canāt fly nearly as high, and has far more garbage in the cockpit to keep you heads down rather than appropriately focused on the art of aviating. Iām with Huggy. From a puristās perspective, itās the āAā.