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I think that's what pisses me off the most. The majority of the time I go in there, whether to just file a voucher or to ask questions/fix a problem, the staff (ranging from A1C up to SSgt) act annoyed at best that I'm there. A few times it was obvious I rudely interrupted their watching-videos-session or their tetris. The fact they don't want to lift a finger to do their own damn job is despicable and the reason I don't trust or like any of those asshats over there.

Mine were all screwed up for about 2 weeks after a trip to HI where I did some diving. To tell you the truth I just rode it out and it eventually cleared up. If you think it might be allergies, try taking some Benedryl and see if that helps; it's worked for me in the past.

True, what you do does have an affect on everyone. Wrong. What we do is why the AF even exists in the first place. It's not called the Finance Force or the Services Force or the Engineering Force for a reason. All those mentioned are important parts of the AF and absolutely necessary, but the "point" of the AF is what's happening in the skies (and I'll admit....space). Support is crucial no doubt, but to say flying only affects those of us who do it is a very misguided statement. Under that argument I should have "a clue" about how a firefighter does his job (never know when I might have to rely on a firefighter and he just doesn't know how to do a portion of his job) or how Dish Network's equipment works (b/c I'd be pissed if I missed Lost!). The point is, just b/c someone's job performance or lack there of affects me does not mean I should or even have the time to learn even a small part of their job's specifics. Now, unfortunately Vance Finance's extreme ineptitude has forced me to learn some stuff. However, I should never have had to based on the simple fact that they should know how to do their job or have the common courtesy to find someone who does know. This is not directed at you Finance Guy (as you seem to have your shit in a sock), but as a generality, why the hell is it acceptable for all these support fields (finance, MPF, services, etc) to not know what the hell they're doing and fuck it away on a daily basis? I know for a fact if I had performed in UPT like I've seen people in these offices, I wouldn't have made it to T-6 solo. These people wonder why pilots/navs hate them and think they suck ass...well it's b/c first they do suck ass, and 2nd we all know what it means to put 100% effort into something and always strive for perfection, the shoes don't seem to understand that concept one bit.

You don't have to know how to fly a perfect 6K Offensive for 2, but come on financeguy, at least have a clue on it! That statement doesn't make sense, does it? So NO, I should not have to know a single thing about finance/MPF/any other job on base b/c it's NOT my job, just like flying a 6K offensive is NOT your job. I think I just simplified what T-bone was getting at...correct me if I'm wrong T-Bone.

Damn, wish I would have thought of that. Undoing those frozen knots at midnight sucks! That's the way it's been for a while AFAIK. All of us were paired w/ "like" roommates (i.e. rated O's). It really isn't that bad and there's a safe in each room that you can put all your valuables in while your away (just uses a 4 digit pin you set).

Happened to me twice and several other times to other dudes. Guess they just don't make that 38 canopy seal like they used to! So yeah, chances are far better than "slim."

No one's called him out on it?

Maybe that rule only applies to ejection seat a/c? Just a guess.

It was very well done and it was awesome to see how many people cared about those two guys. It was definitely really hard going up there in front of my friend's picture and saluting him for the last time...something I hope I never have to do again, but who knows in this business. Godspeed to both.

Copy. I hadn't heard the 30 Jun thing. Not that I wasn't going to do it, just hasn't been high on the priority list.

Gotcha. Depending on how long we're down, this could end up helping the log jam. Good point.

It's still in my list of "To do" on ADLS, and of course it was put there the day after I get back from Fairchild. So if it's in my list, I assume we still have to do it. That said, I plan on waiting till the last sec.

Any info on a fund for Alec?

2. Never thought it'd happen this soon. brother.

Done. Them Them

M2 is spot on. Shotguns provide the best home defense. Think about if someone breaks into your house at 3am, you wake up, but still all groggy, blurry eyed, etc. Do you want to use a pistol that requires a good aim, and in a dark house, or would you rather grab a shotgun that literally just has to be aimed in the direction of the guy? You have a much higher chance of missing the guy w/ a pistol in this situation than you do w/ a shotgun. Plus, the shotgun will most likely have a larger scare factor, making the guy give up and get the hell out of there. Secondly, lets say the guy rushes down your hallway at you in your bedroom. It's dark, you see his outlines and you start shooting your pistol...ok a round hits him in the arm and the rest miss (very likely in this situation). You've basically done nothing except piss him off. Now you fire a shotgun down the hallway, I guarantee that guys going to be a bloody pile on your floor.

Good advice from T-Bone and sky king. My big caution is don't go reading the Dash 1, checklist or IFG. Ops limits/Boldface, "T-6 Need to Know Numbers" and the 11-248 are the limit to what you should do prior to UPT. As sky king said, just read the first couple chapters of the 248, the rest of the stuff will be a waste of time at this point. People who try to read the Dash 1, IFG, etc. are wasting their time...time that could be spent memorize "by the numbers" or getting the first few chapters of the 248 down cold.

Fuck that, 69% for all my bitches!

Good advice, I'll make sure to pick that stuff up on my way out to Luke. I assume wearing a grill and taxing w/ my mask hanging is also a plus?

Maybe I'm retarded, but that never really worked for me. I always hold the button down, but damn it'll feel good to be a Gangsta w/ my arms on the Viper's canopy rails! (I guess I owe Fury royalties or something for that line)

I would guess that we spent around $300 per person for all of UPT. Classes do spend far more than that, but that's b/c they decide to blow shit tons of money on crap that's unnecessary. Buy a realistic number of patches...everyone in class could order one patch or 50 patches, it didn't matter, then we ordered an additional 50 for IPs, guest speakers, random base offices, etc. That all worked out just fine. We also didn't blow tons of money on shirts, coins, mugs, etc. That costs also included several parties, lots of random booze over the year, etc....the stuff that really matters. If you're spending close to a grand, you either have way too much money to blow or you're retarded. Don't be a tight wad, but also don't let a few clowns force your class into paying tons of money for worthless stuff (Example: Our baby class paid something like $200 per person for graduation alone (excluding the costs of all their food) b/c some people wanted expensive flower center pieces and some other crap like that...worthless.)

Yeah I can see how that program might have helped some, but I never did it. Since the test is a lot about multi-tasking, I could see maybe playing a game that requires a lot of movement/attention, but also doing quick math problems while playing. That's a very basic premise of the test. Either way, anything people do like that is going to help minimally at best...get a good sleep and hope you've got the hand/eye coordination and good multi-tasking skills to do well.

Bingo. Any computer game, no matter what "setup" you have is going to help very minimally at best. The ONLY real proven way to help yourself is get a goodnight sleep the night prior, don't be hungover for the test, etc. You're hands and mind either works the way the TBAS does or it doesn't. No amount of video games is going to change that.

You can always have a goal and work your ass off to achieve it...that's just about how every one of us gets to wings. No one's saying you're totally screwed out of flying fighters, but as Spaw said, there is stuff such as class composition, check pilots, IPs, weather, and simply what's in your track select/assignment drop when you get it. Those things you cannot control. Like I said before, attitude and effort is what you CAN control...give it your all in both of those and I will say there's a 98% chance you're going to end up where you should be, whether that be fighters, heavies, helos or 130's/U-28/NSA.

At this point, you should be happy to fly any REAL plane (reference the various UAV bashing threads). Admittedly I am very happy to have gone 38s and heading towards a fighter (*crosses fingers*), but at the same time to say you'd rather just not fly for the AF if it meant flying a C-17, C-130, etc. is stupid IMO. Personally I would be disappointed for a bit if all of the sudden I had to go fly a "heavy", but I guarantee I'd get over it quickly and have fun. It sure beats the hell out of any desk job or getting paid 0.69$/hr to fly for some small regional. Happens all the time. It's just about the norm for every cadet/dude in HS/college to want to fly fighters, but I bet about 75% change their mind once they start UPT. You don't really know what you want until you get a small taste of it. Keep your mind open...F-16s may be the coolest thing to you, but it would be no surprise if you took your first few T-6 rides and said fuck that to the Gs, airsickness, etc. Just speaking from what I've seen.