Dubs

If that happens, good luck with those semi-annuals!

My favorite phrase ever is "I'm gonna go ahead and need you to make your own DTS orders".

*chaff* *chaff* *chaff* Works every time

What are "pople"?

I think you may be SOL, 'cause that's pretty much the whole program... Good luck to you though

Well, like I said in the part you strategically didn't add in your quote, I was talking specifically about UNT where your mission planning is a graded event counting towards your class ranking. You have 100 minutes (if I remember correctly) to do all of the mission planning for your checkride a day or two before you take it. In this case, yeah, if you showed up to the mission planning event with it already done... that's cheating. Outside the formal training environment your damned right it's different because you've probably flown the route you're doing your checkride on 100 times. It's nothing new and there's really nothing that you haven't seen before.

I agree with that. There's gouge... and then there's questionable gouge/cheating material. If you have to question whether or not your gouge is "legal" (aka somewhere between gouge and cheating) then it's probably cheating. I've got no problem with MQF's, condensed IMC break procedures, tab data, etc... But in the training environment, if someone has a copy of a test (especially if they're hording it for themselves... not that I'm saying it should be passed out to a class), if someone has an instructor's script for a sim and study it before a sim, if someone has a checkride route already completed and gouged up before the checkride spin (talking specifically about UNT here) etc... that's crossing the line. Like I said before, I'd tell the person to knock that shit off, but if they didn't, I really don't see going to the flt/cc about it as being a douchie move. Why should that person be #1 in the class and get the best plane come drop time over someone who busted their ass to do it the legit way? Plus, would you really want someone who cheats their way to wings to fly with you? Would you feel comfortable flying on a crew plane or in formation with someone that doesn't know the difference between trail and echelon and the ops limits associated with each? Would you want to fly with someone that could potentially violate the crew every time they go fly because they didn't know little caveat stuff not covered by gouge? I personally wouldn't want to be near someone that doesn't get into the books. Like I said before, I don't mind gouge... I make it and use it myself. BUT, it should be a supplement to the knowledge you already have, not the basis of it.

Apparently that whole plural thing went over your head. No shit I'll be racked and stacked my whole career. MQF is not cheating... especially when you have to look through 15 million pubs to find the answers YOURSELF (hence the actually learning the information part). And good job being selective in quoting me.

If I'm at a training (specifically UPT or UNT) and someone is using stuff that's somewhere between gouge and cheating, they're not my "bro" at that point. I'm being racked and stacked against this douche and I'm lookin out for #1. I'll tell the dude to cut that shit out and give him time to clean up his act, but if he doesn't... you better believe I'd go to my flt/cc. Hopefully the flt/cc would keep it at the lowest level possible and resolve the situation, but I wouldn't let that crap slide. I've seen entire classes go down due to one person cheating and no one having the balls to go to someone about it.

^Does your buddy have a website?

Another shooting in Orlando today. This is getting to be ridiculous... https://www.wesh.com/news/21541263/detail.html

I guess that means people are free to press on with the comments

No I don't mean Discus at all... I mean the people in the combat shoe force who would love to destroy the revolution and replace the current policy with something x1000 are probably chompin at the bit right now (if this makes no sense I apologize... it's f*cking early and I have no desire to be awake right now)

Holy jebus... I think mouths are watering all around big blue tonight over the OPR bullet potential building around this!

Kelly McGillis Then: Now:

If it's still an option (which I'm gonna kind of doubt) like 3-4 years down the line I'll probably jump on it. But I'd rather rack up some "real" flight time in the mean time.

Good lord, space that bad boy out some

Good deal! I heard the same thing about the Aero Club which kind of sucks. Just from the info I have now I was already kind of leaning towards Del Sol, but tomorrow will determine who I go with I guess. Thanks for the reply! I'm glad Del Sol's got a good reputation

I'm here TDY for a few months and figured I'd knock out my PPL on my down time (I've only got like 5 months left on my knowledge test and student pilot certificate and am headin overseas after leaving here) I've got two places in mind right now... Del Sol Aviation and the Aero Club. Does anyone have any personal experience with either? Would you recommend one of them? I'm gonna go talk to them both tomorrow, but if anyone has dealt with them personally I'd love to hear what you thought of them. Thanks for your time!

Gemma Atkinson... nom nom nom nom nom!

Someone suggested that this should've been the general's response on another forum I frequent

Right.

You sir, would be correct. I know her sister and they are very much not middle eastern.

Ok, I have a question about this statement. What if you're going to AFSOC and you're doing the initial qual and initial mission qual phases in a slick up at Little Rock. Can you go over to Alphapointe and grab a leather jacket once you finish up NMQ (the nav mission qual phase)? Or would you have to wait until you're qual'd in an MC/AC-130 at Kirtland or Cannon? I was talking to one of the civilian instructors today about that and he said once you get stamped as being mission qual'd in the slick, then you're mission qual'd... end of story and that he figured you'd be able to get the jacket if you wanted to. But he also said he wasn't 100% sure about it...