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I just don’t see that logic tracking through the demands of high level people. We already have a fleet of non utilized liaison aircraft and instead we fly important people on their own much more expensive aircraft that could be used for any other mission. We flew the Chinook hours out of an entire Brigade in Iraq because for some reason we couldn’t use a C-12 to move 2 people regularly. Honestly it would have been smarter to just pull one of the dozen manned ISR platforms and make it do that job. Likewise we have “airlift” capability in aircraft that will never because of the demand of their other mission be used as airlift in the minds of the planners. How often is anybody sticking pallets in a KC-10 when it can do that and in some cases do it at greater volume than other airlift in country. Not talking about "hey we can take our stuff TDY" I mean looking at the available lines and taking aircraft from mission A to task to mission B. It doesn’t happen because nobody is giving up a tanker to move pallets of stuff. ISR would get the same treatment. Even if it’s pod mounted, you might as well weld it on, because when the COCOM with the big show going on is trying to steal assets from other theatres like CENTCOM in 16-17, you aren’t going to see them turn one of your available TOC porn relay stations into a high value low density parts transport. Oddly enough... this is exactly the mission the C-27 was intended to do. Irregular immediate request logistical support. It don’t fly ring routes, and it’s not for anybody else to retask. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The second you put a pod or ball on it you will cease to have it as an option for airlift. There is no limit to the thirst for FMV from manned platforms. Honestly the only way to protect an airlift platform is to make sure it can’t be used as a jack of all trades crappy substitute for GOCO C-12s or U-28s. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just saying.... the unrefueled distance required to launch from Israel and range all of Iran and the distance from say.... Lakenheath to Moscow are nearly identical....

Honestly it’s always surprised me given their investments they didn’t find one, but a long range combat radius aircraft with the ability to defeat or counter air defense is something the Israelis would kill for. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It was outstanding being in Iraq when we stood back up with all the “that’s not how it used to be” issues we created ourselves. Logistics... oh just put those parts on the rotator.... What do you mean there is no rotator? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The simple fact is too many of our doctrinal lessons have been lost on an entire generation who is now at the reigns of leadership. Brigade Commanders grew up in the era of TOC Porn, unending lines of support, bus schedule designed mobility, and conops instead of 5 para orders. Now those same captains/Majors are wearing Eagles or Stars calling out their sister services for “not supporting us” because the reality is in a non GWOT war, you won’t always get whatever you want and if you aren’t the main effort that’s exactly what is supposed to happen. In fairness though the don’t understand Army stuff like the fact that surge is a temporary situation that requires repayment on the back end. Hence dumb stuff like blanket extensions to duty day, priority target lists and NAIs that don’t function as they should, etc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ah, couldn’t give you specifics on here, but as to say the level of micromanagement on what the AWT line is doing in Iraq is pretty insane. We were constantly banging against it when I was there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If you’re referring to the festivities at BAF, that was for different reasons (gate guards literally locking down ECPs even to people briefed to cross them. But yes I’ve had permission to launch denied while I sat blades turning during IDF and told to remain level 1. So it’s too dangerous to fly because mortars/rockets, but no too dangerous to sit in a running aircraft while we receive that fire with a dude outside completely exposed to launch us. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No you’re talking direct Battlalion echelon attack supporting Brigade operations. None of that is de conflicted the way Divisional/theatre ISR plans are. I’ve got Army C-12 guys across the hall. You know what they don’t do? Coordinate via the CAB here. You know what an aviation brigade sends to an attack battalion as far as airspace coordination? Not a damn thing except maybe it’s hot walls if you’re lucky. You know who does go get that information? The Battalion Tacops guy. The one warrant that figured out how to load the file on the AMPS because the F if some Captain in the plans or FUOPS cell has any idea what they are even looking at. I spent too many days cleaning up 7th IDs G3 Air disaster of and being told by both 1-2 and 2-2 SBCTs “we don’t have an ALO so just figure it out,” to watch you lecture us all on how great the Army is at integrating the battle space. And don’t think you can tell us this is an “Army takes care of its people” argument. I spent more than a few hundred hours flying counter IDF over places like Warrior or Sharana that never took any only so we could have those poor bastards at FOB Boris get to keep their heads down. Brigade commanders don’t share low density assets any better than the Air Force apportionment. In fact after watching the main effort brigade steal all our organic shadows for their ISR collection plan it’s pretty obvious they don’t give a damn about what’s outside their AO. Because we stopped supporting a lot of units just so they could have a few more TVs worth of TOC Porn. Not that any of the work of the CAB would really matter in this case, since the specific idea is using these in support of clandestine ops in austere locations (IE USASOAC). So paint the bitches black and lets stand up 5-160 already... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ll give you all the conventional Cyber for no trade at all. For F sake can we make that part of space force already? Having people promoted to leadership in that MOS while they are being compared against their peers for how fast they run and what their rifle qual was is insane. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Oh bullshit man You know what direct Apache Support lines look like so don’t go misrepresenting in. Flying “Silver line” in Afghanistan.... ok go Support Dragon brigade for 2 hours for “named operation” Thunder Road... which was NAI recon of the same road every day. Well done Dragon S3 for making that a named operation... Ok they got theirs for the day. Now head 40 miles west of current location, refuel and conduct “counter IDF” over Shank/Dalke. Hey wow look we are supporting multiple brigades... you can’t actually shoot anything but maybe your presence will make them not go set their IDF. (Nope). And if you’re really lucky they will let you do ground postured QRF for the remainder of your gun line at BAF so you can maybe get a plate while you sit. Or you can get dedicated QRF line for a location that has no mission and then the CG can turn off countless named operations in vicinity Al Asad because part of their min Force is rotary wing fires. But hey, you got Apaches staged at location X ready to respond to anything within 60 minutes.... if they ever actually get approval to launch (which we didn’t... even when we had a DART outside the wire). Yeah man, we really got that stuff figured out. Again, I spent more than a decade and several deployments seeing how well we understood airspace. You’re nuts if we think we understand enough to even integrate with the rest of the Air battle space to suddenly go employing a 10k altitude 300 knot platform without being a risk to ourselves and everybody else in that airspace. When a CAB doesn’t even have an LNO at the CAOC it cannot be anything but reactive and restricted to the little set aside boxes they carve out for you to play in. That is not how you can even remotely try to employ this type of platform. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Working well into my second decade as an Army aviator with first hand experience watching us not get out shit in a sock. No we have no god damned clue what we are doing when it comes to anything above the coordinating altitude (the altitude where the ATO/ACO just says “stay down there and kill yourselves if you want too, but don’t get any higher”). That is exactly where this platform would live. Unless we just want to go with the default dumbassery of “stay low and we won’t need to coordinate so it’ll be ok.” I’ve seen that method used to great effect. When you have 1 guy per company of aviators who even knows what the ATO is and maybe 2 guys in a battalion that understand how to pull it off the spins... when your ALSE guy is a W2 PI dude that spent two weeks learning how to sew and now has to worry about oxygen and ejection seats/chutes.... When your S6 can’t get crypto into the equipment you have and now we want to add GPS keys to guided munitions maintained at a flight line that won’t be collocated with your battalion... When your brigade worries more about making sure the piloted are painting their faces in the field with a flammable paint and ignoring the fact your aircraft have no ASE installed and sends them to China Lake to run the radar lane... that last one was 4 CAB at NTC just a few months ago. Don’t even get me started on the guard.... No the last thing the Army needs is a fixed wing attack airplane. And I was a staff aviator working up to Brigade level before I said F this I’m tired of banging my head against the wall for these idiots to ignore basic facts/requirements and crossed over. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ha Because the Army has ever had its priorities together when it comes to an aviation platform.... No... just hell no. The last thing we need in the CABs is another platform and mission they don’t understand when they can’t get UAS right most of the time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So basically do what existed in the 80s when the Guard had a FAC(A) mission with the OV-10s. Wait.... it’s almost like we’re buying the same damn plane if we went with the *drumroll* OV-10X. F me I’ll bet there are still pubs regarding doctrine of such a unit buried right next to books on Air Land Battle. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Probably the biggest revelation from the Ault report that resulted in change was less about shooting live missiles and more about the handling/care of live missiles. Ordnance guys were literally caveman piecing them together at the time and until change was put about, no method of tracking the life of the missiles was employed. Missiles were literally hung on planes and subjected to weeks/months of carrier landings without inspection. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Don’t do that... berets don’t hold crap for water. You’ll waste the scotch.

“I couldn’t decide which shoes I liked more so I got both....” -My Wife Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And funny enough the countries he is claiming to emulate actually do that. We just dint hear that by the way it’s viewed/sold of “free college for everybody,” either because ignorance or false branding. If you are in for example Germany, you know by the time most of us where ending puberty where your path will go. Those countries have quotas and caps for not just higher education, but skilled, and unskilled labor categories. They do tell people “we will pay to teach you.... to be an electrician/plumber/mechanic because that’s what you qualified for.” Your desire to be something else is on you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Dude you completely glossed over half my post about the false statements being given by people selling this idea of governmental control and application services. The countries we are constantly told to look at as examples of socialism working to the benefit of everybody have two major ignored factors they build that reality around. 1. Our idea of what is provided/required is wrong. Americans think there is some magic switch the “corporate fat cats” or whatever oblivious enemy just refuses to turn on. There isn’t. Resources are finite and even in those countries they are not the unending well of good fortune. There are plenty of people living in “free education” countries working service jobs with what we would consider an 11th grade education because they do not send everybody to free college. 2. Every single successfully applied socialist country is getting away with some combination not spending diddly on their military and/or massive energy exports. So until we can find somebody to provide us with that there is this huge hole in the budget that seems to be step two of the collect underpants + _____ = profit thinking being done in Washington. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There are plenty of public poles on Single Payer. What there aren’t a lot of and what fails miserably is positive polls when people are told what they will be taxed to pay for single payer. Everybody thinks these pipe dream “lets be like Europe!” Ideas are great in space. Once you find out the VAT tax and lack of take home pay enjoyed in those countries the people who succeeded enough in life to not be sitting with 120k in debt and 3 years of college wasted while working as a barista realize really quickly they don’t like the idea of “we just need socialism to fix everything.” Bernie is still mouthing “they have free college in Germany!” Yeah they do... for a select group of people identified by their 14th birthday as worthy of receiving that investment by the government. They also have a buttload of people working service jobs because they didn’t have rich parents to pay for the cost of sending them abroad to higher education. You don’t hear about that part in his speech. Probably because you can’t sell that as easy as “free college for everybody.” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

But remember... Ugly/Fat girls will do “stuff”... because they have to. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ll add you one better.... it was an accompanied Duty Station. i can only imagine the F’d up skew of reality you’d have to be in to bring your wife and kids to that place.

Boyd existed in a time when our enemies lacked both the ability to collect targeting information at range or the precision to capitalize on it. Range is going to be critical. There was a time 150 Km left you out of reach or only reachable by a limited number of systems you could defend/deflect. Now days that simply isn’t the case. And with a fight like the Pacific all the THAAD in the world isn’t going to change the fact that China has 6-9 missiles to lob at a limited number of reinforced concrete areas that you can land big or small airplanes on.

The idea of using the Osprey as a cargo plane type mission is a gross overspending to accomplish a mission in the worst way possible. the Osprey has a very real capability to assaults do special use type aviation (forget its low organic self Defence caps) and an ability to go further than other rotor platforms without needing somebody to produce a 130 with baskets. That said, it’s not nor has it ever been a cheap flight hour or MX platform because it’s flexibility over traditional FW/RW is bought with dollars and time. If you have enough of an FOB footprint to require immediate parts but have anything other than a T wall surrounded firebase type existence an expedient runway for FW is a better more effective use of your time. If you don’t have that kind of surface area and security, you are either within the footprint of traditional RW resupply or you aren’t a big enough requirement to justify it and can take air drop supply which we already have.

Find an Army recruiter, inform them you are only interested in the WOFT program. Go through as many “ah man that’s a tall order” BS excuses as you have to and don’t be convinced to do something stupid like enlist or go to OCS (where there is no guarantee of aviation branch). There are 3 total guard units, and unlike the Air Guard they don’t so much hire from outside with the pledge games played for college degree holders. They recruit the locked on E5 in the guard unit who they know and trust. They’ll also go away the second big Army can win the fight to get another CAB back. The Guard barely got to keep those 3 battalions. Right now Active Apache Manning is around 72%. They are hemorrhaging people across aviation but the 64 specifically and stripping out active units of IPs to try and pump up the flight line. If you really want to fly the 64, there is no better time to get into it.