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Edwards had one, but it went somewhere with DARPA. I recall they only built 2 of them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The shit people forget is Bastion wasn’t the first attack. It was the 4th. Salerno, they hit it and got plastered. Just a poor combined attack and timing basically blowing their wad on the VBIED and then strolling in after the shock and audacity effect had already worn off. Frontnac, they hit well and got in but had no clear goal other than “attack!” Ended up dead but took the chow hall with them. Shank... huge VBIED cement truck. But they hit the bazaar and really only killed a lot of Afghans. After each of those we did... pretty much nothing. After Bastion people suddenly remembered this was a war and actions like the brigade at KAF put the pathfinders on the line in the dark because we had no idea if we were next. T walls instead of a cheap unguarded chain link fence. Crew chiefs were launching aircraft strapped, because of anything is more vulnerable than a parked aircraft it’s a parked aircraft with an APU and engines running. Really it was a wake up call to stop pretending just because you could go to the boardwalk and get ice cream you weren’t in a war zone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It was also over in minutes. Not before Marines on the flight line led by the squadron commander (who was KIA) dropped whatever they were doing to stand too and fight. Those Marines were reinforced by Rangers from TF 3-10 and the insurgents basically died fighting in place. They took out every Harrier in the squadron (9 at the base) with a platoon size element that snuck through the post incident identified serious security hazard of a shanty town allowed to build up next to the perimeter fence. Dudes were wearing a cobbling together of stolen Coalition uniforms and sneakers/small arms with a bunch of grenades they used to demo the aircraft. Once they got a fire going, the moved to the next in succession. Doesn’t take long for aircraft in parking to end up like this It didn’t help the night of the attack it was near zero illumination and crap ceilings. So complacency of “nothings going down tonight, let’s play some Xbox” was in full effect. After that we finally got some level of security with T walls and an active security force in the towers at Mustang Ramp in KAF. We obviously completely forgot all those lessons though after my last trip to Taji. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I just love watching the Pilot/Nav or for my gold wing bretheren 1 anchor/2 anchor fights. It’s all one rating on my side so what seat I was in never mattered. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Heads down like prison rules... ”I better not catch you looking at the damn sky NAV!”

Which is on its own enough reason. If you seriously have time to spend policing people’s uniforms (on the flight line no less) then your job is either not being done, or not important enough to justify trading you for somebody we could use under forcecap. Either way somebody should be re-examining what exactly is your purpose... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1. It is incredibly comfortable. It’s amazing that the SOF guys don’t have something comparable since it really gives you great freedom of movement but good warmth during that early onset of winter in locations. 2. This is the refined version.... the original vest that came out with the ACU pattern was the ugliest most gawd damned awful thing anyone had seen which just encourages me to wear it more. It looked like some kind of nasty green Christmas sweater and it seemed like the only place people had it was Korea (which just convinced people it was something commercial and not authorized). We had a pair of pilots that wore that to every field problem in Germany just to drive our Sgt Major nuts. It is the boonie cap of cold weather jackets. Kinda like the first gen fleece aviator jacket. It had no provisions for name tapes or ranks. Just a jacket with my hat to tell you I was an officer and no idea who I was or who I worked for. I loved that jacket. You could walk by some waste of forcecap with your sunglasses on and hands in pockets to the chow hall or stand on the flight line with boots unbloused and sunglasses on head fixing a log book and they didn’t know which LtCol to go cry to when you told them to politely go find a different place to fornicate with themselves. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don’t know what all you guys get with the deal as far as the FREE aircrew stuff but if you get the full selection you’re going to have a nuclear option to throw at the uniform police. Of all the gear they give me that I have no use for in deployment RFI, this was the one thing our Sgt Major got taken off the list because he so hated to see pilots wearing it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I mean... Wright Patt spent like 8 million dollars to build a bathroom on the golf course back in the 90s, so while it’s totally possible to spend that much I’m almost sure it’s because we’re stupid. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah I was just going off what was here and active stateside. Even if that monster could lift a Raptor it doesn’t help if it requires us to take it apart and move it here with 1 of a dozen available AN-124 charters.

Yeah looking at this if we’re thinking “are we taking an unnecessary risk” I think the smart Lowest cost highest payoff universal move is building on site protection. HAS, Purpose built hangers, whatever... I think this might make a military that has 20 silver bullets parked in Missouri that cannot be replaced go “hey maybe I can spend some cash on a better garage for my stuff.” for the cost of 1 B-2 or 2-3 Raptors..... what could you build...

About 20-30k lbs over any reasonable slingload. 53K is the heavyweight champion for sling load, and even it barely trips the 30k mark.

No personal offense... it’s a terrible idea. As the storm comes closer inland and gets over shallower waters the rise and fall in sea state increases drastically. This would be where any commercial cargo barge or slow wide flat decked ship you could crane and lash airplanes too would be. Boats don’t push inland during storms for good reason, unless you’re in a harbor that gives protection you’re better off out to sea where the wave action is less eventful running pumps wide open. Add to that a vessel like that isn’t made to go fast, so unless you’re keeping it at the place for a rainy day (bad pun unintentional) it’s very unlikely by the time you’d recognize the danger and issue the order to move it would get to you, get loaded, and get clear. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Probably be better off building earthen structures that have that dome shape like the hurricane houses you see leftover from the 70s. Don’t need to be huge, just big enough for 2-3 planes... build 4-5 of them for the small number you always expect to be down. Same basic principle of a HAS just set out from the onset with storms in mind not 500lbs bombs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Finally replace the 1960s era plane along with all the other 707 based stuff? Is it crazy that it just might take an act of godly wrath to give that idea wheels. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What are you talking about.... if we’re professional enough 100% is the standard of success in all things... anybody that says otherwise isn’t a team player... 100% for OR rates.... 100% percent for PT tests... 100% participation in volunteer activities.... 100% online training.... Now please pass me some more of this fantastic grape koolaid. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Air Force decides to cut its losses with Tyndall.... Tyndall foot print to be moved to new location to support mission..... Panel of experts chooses (after way too much political participation) Patrick AFB to receive most of Tyndall’s mission.... Billions spent to renovate Patrick housing and infrastructure reestablishung it as an active duty base..... 2022 Hurricane Season hits and rocks the everloving piss out of Titusville (almost happened multiple times when I lived there). ”God Dammit that’s Twice! Why the F didn’t we go to god damned Moody or something.....”

Same could be said with Dyess. Then again if Rainer ever blows it’s top, half the ground combat power in PACOM goes with it. Along with like 1/3 of the population of Washington. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Everything “built to withstand” was pointless with Andrew. NOAA only has best guesses at its maximum wind speed really was because whatever measurement equipment was out there it died in the process of doing its job. Well intentioned to at least try to protect stuff no doubt since you could and did eventually put the pieces of some of that stuff back together, but yeah that storm was a wrecking ball. This one would probably have been easily as bad except it’s path made landfall and didn’t hold or revisit water so it’s a one shot punch as oppose to Andrew which came across the peninsula and gathered additional strength from the gulf. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Glue... Marines eat Crayons. We ate glue. And we don’t have any trouble telling who “the air force guys” are. Cmon guys it’s not like we can’t all pick each other out in a group with at least 3/5 accuracy. Hell I can about figure it out just by what watch when everybody is just wearing different colors of the same slack/polo combo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wrong color helicopters. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Don’t get me wrong I don’t hate bags or bag people, but we’ve got 99 climate culture problems and 1 piece vs 2 piece fixes none of them. To you guys that want to make this your hill to die on, you’re missing the forest for the tree with this. The military regardless of branch needs you right now. More than you need it for that point. If your gonna piss capital away on which uniform you can look cooler wearing during your next voluntold 179, I can’t help you. I’m more worried about big problems than looking cool at location X. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

ABAV is a wide project, with SOAR using it as the stepping stone between current issue and the next step SOAR specific ALSE and Helmet. Air Warrior is simply what currently in the inventory in mass so while SOAR outfits 2/4 battalions as first priority ABAV and the previous SOAR vest that was piecemeal out in the conventional will start replacing air warrior to mainline CABs later in FY19/20. What’s important is that gone are the days of pinching your dick and or balls in a leg strap getting in/out of an aircraft.... understandably it’s mostly just a helicopter problem (gauntlet thrown). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You realize having worn both uniforms and realizing the only people who we are “looking cool for” are each other and 14 year olds I don’t want nor need the bag to somehow validate myself in life right? Again, the only people in the Army who want or actively cry about people wanting to go back to a 1 piece simply don’t know how good they have it right now with a 2. The people in the Air Force that are going to this uniform kicking and screaming “oh god we look like the Army now” might want to look at pictures pre digital camo stupid.... when we all looked “like the Army” in utilities except for the Marines who rolled their sleeves wrong and wore their little pointy hat. 2 piece is better. It’s just as fire proof, it’s way easier to take a top off in the heat than roll sleeves or god forbid wear them wrapped at the waist, and it works with gear far more comfortable than what we wear/wore with leg straps (can’t speak to G suits and don’t care as a helicopter guy). And I’d pay real money to get the DCU patterns cut back with the current camo OCP. Fix that and it’s perfect, especially when worn with the combat shirt. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It’s the Army. More specifically it’s the conventional Army. You seem to be mistaken as to where Aviations pecking order is on divisional decision making. Even here at Campbell in the vaunted Air Assault divisions back yard where aviation is a pivotal part in their mission set they take a back seat to ground people making ground decisions. You ever paint your face in a field site sitting next to a 50 foot long aircraft hidden from nobody? Because I have. It’s stupid as hell, but it’s what the head master wants. Anybody in the Army that thinks somehow that’s gonna change with the addition of a uniform we’ve been there and done that with is horribly misinformed and would do well to listen to the voices of experience that can tell it like it was. Instead we will do what we always do, get something new, go back on our promises, and bitch about it on the back of end. Best thing for Army aviators to do is just enjoy the flight pay, or go non conventional. Assessments run every 2-4 weeks, show up in shape. This culture will not get better. And yes, being able to take a crap without downloading all my kit is more important to me than playing dress up and looking cool for 14 year olds at the PX, because let’s face it outside work I’m not wearing work clothes. Far and above more important than that, the new flight kit that replaces air warrior... needs you to be wearing a two piece flight suit. I’ll gladly trade a onesie to not have to wear air warrior anymore. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk