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Temporarily on 2 July 07, for 16 Months. Seems they can’t retire someone who is under investigation. AF is using the “it is an ongoing investigation” routine to keep from having to answer questions about it. Not sure what is going to happen in November. I think they cooked up the temporary retirement thing because couldn’t find anywhere to put her where she would not be a distraction. Oh, and the whole thing about having a big liar, who is under investigation, being in a position of responsibility.

Last time I saw one of those our OG/CC walked up and said... "What does LPA stand for?" LT: "LT Protection Association! " OG-CC: "Hum, I don't know about that"... OG/CC walks off. Me: "Hey man, not sure if you got that, but what he said was: take it off now, I will be back in 2 minutes to check..." LT: "really?" 2 minutes later OG/CC did come back around to check... Guess some guys just don't have enough real work to keep themselves occupied..

You can pick one up cheap at Goodwill or the Salvaton Army. This remins me of Gen Handy's uniform guidance years ago. Anyone who worked at the Group or Wing was told to wear blues to work unless you were flying. They tried their best to get everynone to comply to no avail. Leadership quit trying after three days. Same thing will happen here. They can not give you an aritcle 15 for not wearing a scarfe. Just tell them yours is a the cleaners or in your other pants!

Done!

That zipper looks a little low two... wait, what's that? His left pocket is not fully zipped and an object is protruding from it! Very unprofessional. Someone should send a letter to the Mods to have this picture digitally enhance to bring him into regs! Ah, much better!

Him Him. Does anyone know what UPT Class he was in?

2 Hey Boom! You are still dangerous. But you and your white socks can plug my jet anytime.

Funny thing is, after a couple of weeks you will wish you had just stayed here and read about it! Good luck and wear your reflective belt, black socks and ID Card!

Fine! Then I am calling the C-17 a fixed pich cowled turbo prop!

That is sad. However, it would not make any difference in this case. I have been SUBA diving around that entire island and the water is deep 2-7 miles. The last time anyone went that deep to recover a CVR/FDR was the Helderberg, 747 Combi, in the Indian Ocean. They only found the CVR and it was in bad shape. They never could determine the cause of the fire (why is was so intense) onboard. Hope they find someone alive!

The Buff does not have one because of the primary mission it used to have. No longer the case, so I am not sure why it has not been fitted like the 135.

More from KUAM News. B-52H Stratofortress crash site photos KUAM's CBS affiliate, WBNS-10 TV in Columbus, Ohio, has confirmed the identity of one of the crew members who was aboard the B-52H Stratofortress that crashed off the coast of the island on Monday morning. According to our affiliate, they identified one of the six crew members as Colonel George Martin who has served as a military doctor for the last 25 years and the second in command at the medical unit at Andersen Air Force Base. According to the Andersen Air Force Base Public Affairs Office, the bodies of two B-52 crew members were recovered during rescue operations on Monday. Officials are withholding the identities of the crew members but confirm that the identity of one of the recovered crew members has been determined but efforts are still underway to notify family members. The bomber, deployed from Barksdale Air Force Base to the Yigo base, was involved in a training mission on Liberation Day and was scheduled to perform a flyover during the island's annual Liberation Day Parade when for unknown reasons, the aircraft and its 6 crew members aboard crashed off the coast of Guam about 9:45 Monday morning. The Air Force has confirmed that the bodies of two crew members were recovered, but they have not released the identities of those individuals. The military also confirmed that there were no weapons or munitions aboard the aircraft that was deployed to AAFB as part of the Department of Defense's continuous bomber presence mission in the Pacific region.

That was my point, you can't kick a guy out if he did not know that this was not to be tolerated. And Gary cleared this up in the post right after mine! Read 4 posts up!

Well, then your boss sucks donkey balls (and you can tell him I said that) if they are trying to kick him out. I think they are going to stop short and hope that gets their point accross. Good luck to him.

I have seen this way too many times. Some poor dude gets left holding the bag because the leadership suddenly decides to crucify someone for doing something that has all the sudden become a trend! This is why when someone screws up; everyone needs to hear about it. Instead, people choose to keep it quite to prevent embarrassment, for the individual, the organization, ect. It is BS. If it was not advertised that this was not going to be tolerated he has a good case to get back into training if they kick him out. Tell him not to give up the fight. Ok, so if he went to every flight, why did 09-09 not know about it?

For everyone involed in the rescure effort. I know some of you have probably doen SAR in the open ocean and you know it is not a easy task. The Pacific is a big ocean and there is a hell of a current where they went down. Those guys will be busting their ass to find remaining crew members.

Something is not adding up. If what you say is true, you have some enormous D-Bags running the show there. Kicked out for over speeding an aircraft... does not make sense. Kicked out for breach of flight discipline… makes sense. Hell, we had a guy doing an impromptu air show on his first pattern solo... kept rocking his wings every time he passed the small viewing area outside the fence at Vance. His family was there watching and he wanted to let them know which one was him. Hooked that ride, but that was it.

prohibited in "AFI-69-chow my hog. Eventhough T-Mike had one on all the time.

I hope they find the other 4. One of my buds from UPT flies BUFFs at KBAD. Thrying to get in touch with him. Prayers for all 6, sorry to hear about the 2. Sorry, I will clarify. I meant the AF rate was constant. This list include 5 navy incidents. The AF had 27 Class As in FY 07.

According to the data from the safety center the rate is stable. Steep rise for bombers though. Hope they find all 6 safe. Everything reported so far say 1 or 2 recover, no word on condition.

If that is the case, then he is indeed screwed. The AF has no sense of humor about that crap and kicking you out before you get your wings is way easier.

Nope. 17s. but it was a former 141 reserve crew that knocked down the tree.

From: KUAM News Guam Search and Rescue operation underway for down military aircraft An extensive search and rescue operation is underway 25 nautical miles Northwest of Guam for six crew members who were on board a B52 military aircraft. According to the Federal Aviation Administration Guam Office's Terry Pyle, the B52 left Andersen Air Force Base at 9am. Just before 10:30 this morning, the local FAA Office lost contact with the pilot of the aircraft. Andersen Air Force Base 36th Wing Public Affairs Sgt. Stephen Teel confirms that a B52 was scheduled to participate in a fly over during the Liberation Parade, but would not confirm any aircraft from the base had crashed. Coast Guard Lt. Lee Putnam says the Coast Guard Cutter Assateague was called to respond to the aircraft crash. The Coast Guard also sent two 25 foot safe boats to the scene while the Guam Fire Department's Search and Rescue arrived with a 35 foot vessel and the Guam Police Department's Marine Patrol arrived on scene with its 24 foot boat. Two Navy HSC25 air craft are also in the area searching for the 6 crew members that were on board the aircraft.