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?s on ADSC (Active Duty Service Commitment)
Duck replied to FreudianSlip's topic in General Discussion
I was a T-6 guy in UPT and I still picked up a 3 year ADSC at PIT when I went to be a T-6 IP. -
Thanks Guardian. I hated the Tanker by the way. Was thrown into it out of T-38s back in '08 so I am just thankful I got a plane back in the day where we were overmanned in fighters (lol). But yeah, the plane's terrible. The guard was fun, lots of Pacific AEs flying nurses from Travis to Hickam and partying on the beach. That was the hardest part of flying the tanker, picking one nurse to go back to the hotel with... I jest, I jest... Or do I?
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Guardian. Glad it takes so much skill to fly whatever it is you don't want to tell us you fly. Unless it is the U-2, it isn't harder to land than the 135. The KC-135 mission is by far one of the, if not the easiest flying missions in the Air Force. I can say that as a prior KC-135 guy. I spent 3 years flying as an associate with a KC-135 ANG unit which had airline guys who came to us from the Viper, Eagle, Hawg, Harrier and Hornet. Their previous missions were undoubtedly more complex than anything we did, however every single one of them took a considerable amount of time to figure out how to land the bitch. It takes new co-pilots on average a year to land consistently. Believe it or not, your Evaluator experience and hard fought CFI doesn't directly translate to every plane in the Air Force inventory. Unless you have flown the tanker you have no credibility to talk bro. Just like I have no credibility to tell you how easy it is to airdrop or do a 2v2 or fly the president or whatever you claim to do.
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Last year was Sept, this year July. If they are done by January 17, I'm wondering if the 17 boards are going to be even earlier than July...
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Yay! Changs back!
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Not saying it would help the retention problem, but didn't we push back the Majors board as a result of high retention just 4 years ago?
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Would that mean the next board possibly getting pushed up earlier?
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35%? Great it's just a stones throw to hit 65%!
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As it stands right now, you couldn't pay me enough to stay in. Now fix some of the issues, get rid of the terrible middle management leadership, get rid of the bs deployments that contribute nothing but keep me away from my family for 6 months, end 365s and I would stay 20+
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I would like to know that too. Also did everyone twice passed over to Major get offered continuation? The one guy in my Wing did, so no separation pay for him.
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Yes. In fact from what I remember it was easier to get one after a year of being a good cadet, keeping up your grades, taking leadership roles in the wing etc.
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I got one question about my masters at my civilian interview. I explained it that although he hadn't heard of the school, I felt the program was good and I learned a lot. Then I mentioned I wanted to save my MBA for a brick and mortar school in the future and it obviously was good enough to get the job.
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But did they have Butter's magnetic personality? God knows we love you Butters.
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University of Management and Technology. Completely worthless degree with a high school level effort.
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I will be pressing to test next year if my subsequent Palace Chase apps get turned down. The failing pt tests, although expedient, wouldn't sit right on my conscience.
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Pm sent
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Wow. This is the reason I come here. Thanks Chida!
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Agreed. However, a lot of guys I know aren't looking for the airline gig. But rather just want to live a more stable life for their familia.
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Holy shit you two. Seriously. I am not complaining about the contract or the length of time. What pisses me off however is that some of us were told "plan to not have a job" and when things started working out for us in the civilian world the Air Force said "Kidding!" What I don't want is to burn this bridge for what would ultimately be a much better life for my family. If you don't get that then maybe you and the Air Force deserve each other. Bottom line, the way this whole VSP/RIF debacle was what I was complaining about. And btw I am not going to start failing PT tests to get out. I still desire to serve in the Guard after I am out. Looking forward to your guys next worthless replies
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"Get to stay" makes it seem like I have a choice. Not surprised you're confused though. What was your background again?
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Easy solution. Approve Palace Chase Apps with 3 years left on AD, thus getting a guy 6 years in the guard/reserve. Not all the dudes I talk to want to go to airlines, some just want to work for a place that isn't out to screw them every chance they get in the name of making rank.
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We just had a guy twice passes over 11F who was offered continuation. He denied it and is separating almost a year earlier than his UPT ADSC. I am wondering if denying a promotion is treated the same or if they make you stay till the bitter end of your UPT ADSC. Not that it matters, but for me I was happily serving until I was called in and told by my Commander that my career field and year group was overmanned back in 2014 and I should be prepared for the possibility of not having a job in the Air Force from the RIF. I took a long shot and applied for a job making around $200k a year and after almost a year and a half of interviews, was offered the gig. By this time the Air Force has decided that I am vital to the organization, finishes the VSP/RIF option in 1 year versus the 5 authorized by congress and subsequently denies my Palace Chase and Hardship Applications. Just a little background for those wondering why I have so much hatred for Big Blue. Anyone know of any other options I have to free myself ?
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Chida or Jaded... Which one is correct or both? Do you live out the rest of your ADSC or separated immediately after second board as if you were passed over twice?
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So I know if you get passed over twice you can separate almost immediately but what about if you are offered promotion and turn it down?