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Sun Tzu said there is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. Best part about IDE/SDE is learning from the curriculum that we are in fact, doing this wrong. The great mystery to me is how we teach people the right thing yet so many graduate and immediately do the wrong thing. All of the generals responsible for our failures have read that quote. Yet here we are.

Shack. We are the most educated force in the history of the world, yet we’re losing wars while experienced people walk out in disgust. Our entire effort at education has failed us: every O5 has a masters yet we do the dumbest shit, repeatedly, and value the inexperienced BTZ over the experienced APZ. We've created a military force where combat experience has no value. Career success can be had without combat success, and combat success doesn’t necessarily equate to career success. WTF are we doing?

And not fighting in any of those locations, whereas other AFSOC aircraft are burning MF’ers in many. That was my point: LAA for AFSOC in this entire thread is about fighting. If we give it to the 6th, it won’t see action and that’s a shame.

You're right, that is a more professional way to say what I mean. Valid spear, I'll take the feedback. Regardless, we have a bet gentlemen.

Do you think the USAF already has a light attack squadron? I don’t, because no one in the USAF is fighting with light attack aircraft. Yet we have the 81st fighter SQ. Advising with A29s isn’t combat, even when doing it in a combat theater; I’m in a position to have a valid opinion. This whole thread is based on a desire for the Air Force to acquire light attacked aircraft to use ourselves. Regarding CAA, I don’t want to argue, we won’t agree. Suffice to say yes I am intimately familiar with those missions sets and no it is not actual fighting (minus very rare exceptions) regardless of what theoretical authorities exist. Look at what AFSOC strike assets did to ISIS, that’s fighting. Sell CAA as fighting to someone else, I’m not buying it. at the end of the day, I think there’s no operational LAA in AFSOC by 2021. You think a single A29 used by the 6th to teach other countries how to fight = AFSOC LAA. We fundamentally disagree on terms, but I’ll still accept the bet because I don’t mind buying scotch for a bro. So either way I win! See you in 2021.

You’ve got to have a timeline bro... AFSOC has been promising this for years at some point we have to circle a date on the calendar. Using your criteria above, I’ll never get my scotch. No loopholes! Also, I notice your position changed from “AFSOC doesn’t need as many LAA, lead command, designated mission set...“ to now “AFSOC might get a single LAA for the 6th.” Sorry, CAA isn’t combat. I’ll say you win if AFSOC actually has LAA that they’re fighting with with in what, 2 years? I’ll even say you win if AFSOC is standing up an operational LAA squadron in 2 years... they don’t have to be IOC or FOC for me to pay. But they can’t be play fighting like CAA, they have to be actual pipe hitters. AFSOC aquiring a single aircraft to teach afghans/Nigerians/whoever does not meet the intent of this thread. I’ll submit my position for the wider audience to adjudicate.

Excellent. Terms? I think AFSOC still has no LAA by 2021. Anything past that is vaporware anyway. I’ll collect (or you will!) Jan 2021.

Are you confident enough to bet a bottle of scotch?

No. AFSOC not buying unless CAF buys.

I had a narrative only PRF for my IPZ PRF. All bullets, including the push line, were written by my losing senior rater. The student MLR reviewed my records along with everyone else at school to decide P vs DP; that was literally all they did. The board does not care whether your PRF is NO or originating from your senior rater. Hope that sheds some light on your situation.

My comment was not directed at the specifics of this conversation but rather your style of communication; although lecturing an Apache guy about the proper way to employ Apaches is a bold move. Your points are frequently hard to understand. Talking less about yourself would perhaps make it easier for others to comprehend what you’re trying to communicate. It’s free advice, take it or leave it. Cheers.

What an odd comment to make to an Apache guy. You come across as a weird and ignorant dude. I mean that in a constructive way. Recommend not making every comment about yourself.

I’m sorry if this has been your experience. It has not been mine at all, and I don’t agree with this portion of your statement.

Interesting video Breckey. I hadn’t seen that. Did not look like “CSAR” to me. Other side of the river would have been the real deal.

SoCo that’s good advice. Some people don’t understand what a shitshow the Hands program has been— it’s a glaring example of the say do credibility gap rotting all trust away from USAF institutions. Sorry you got screwed, thanks for warning others.

Concur. Safety process totally broken. SECRET is easier to access.

Fair enough. I won’t quibble with semantics, and I concur with the frustration. I still think AFG is a war; using your definition: one side is trying to win. And succeeding. It’s just not our side. To me that doesn’t make this “not war” it makes us dumb. We seem to think WW2, which was historically anomalous, is the standard “war” and drawn out, ambiguous, sporadic fighting is abnormal and unworthy of study. But it’s all war. We’re just bad at it. Not trying to put words in your mouth, that spear is aimed at USAF PME. And I don’t blame politicians, I blame our generals.

Afghanistan is definitely a war. What is the timeline when a war becomes a conflict in your mind?

The way I read new reg wording, I’d wager no. It appears to effect only ADSCs for some types of flying training. I don’t see how a GI bill benefit transfer ADSC (or in-res school ADSC as another example) would be erased. i could be wrong, and it’s always worth a second opinion.

Shack, unfortunately. Lots of great ideas for increasing QOL along with mission effectiveness. Neither are variables considered in actual discussions on this topic.

Exactly. We have to stop being afraid of queep monsters.

Just wear it & see what happens.

For those of us not plugged into the UPT life..... what are you talking about?

This will explain.

Incredible footage. I watched the whole thing waiting for that stop light to disappear.