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Liquid is a credible SOF GO who has asked that his privacy be respected to enable candor. I wish he posted more.

What the hell are you talking about bro?

Tribalism seems sustainable. Their agrarian lifestyle seems sustainable, at least at a subsistence level. If the country remains a poor backwater, we don't really care so long as international terrorists don't base there, right? What do you think we should be doing differently, on a strategic engagement level?

Concur all. But the people who could change it are the same people who have benefited by it and see no reason to change it. Is this an un-fixable problem?

The 24 pole year is not the same for all services, and is unique to the AF. Awesome post, thanks for contributing your first hand perspective. Regarding your point about seeing the tragedy of our AFG mission up close, I'd love to hear more anecdotes or experiences from yourself or other hands.

Well I've maxed out my downvotes on the same guys, two days in a row. That's a new one. I have noticed he up votes his own posts which is a classy move. At least he's not taking the bonus, so you have that going for you AF.....

Gross, but accurate.

You alright bro?

Sooooo, are you taking my bet?

Not meant that way at all bro. Just a bit of common ground between folks on this forum who disagree.

I think you missed the point bro. If the AF worked, there wouldn't be a need for a bonus. It doesn't, so there is. Your hypothetical "we've won so let's return the money" scenario is not what I intended by that comment.

So you didn't take the bonus but have an opinion on my rationale for taking the bonus? And you think my opinion is crazy? Thanks for your service.

Totally agree RAM. I want to be part of a winning organization and if the USAF was one, we would not have a retention problem. But I also understand we've been tasked with "unwinnable" missions. How to reconcile these seemingly incompatible factors? First, a winning organization means one built, soup to nuts, with winning wars as a clear and obvious function. That means rewarding people who are good at the mission, not assuming we're all equal and using non mission factors (party planning, masters, etc.) as delineators. In an ops squadron, my entire day should be focused on refining my lethality, and base agencies should be rated on their ability to support us. For example.... If a short notice deployment pops up and I need a guy to get CATM, CATM should jump through their ass to make it happen and be happy they found a way to enable our mission. That's what a winning organization looks like. One that is focused on successful prosecution of combat, not all the distractions we talk about. Second, if we're given impossible tasks whose pursuit hurt our readiness, I expect LEADERSHIP from the senior ranks to say so. Don't say morale is pretty darn good, say morale is terrible because our political masters have sent us on fools errands without an end state. Have some balls. Risk your career to speak the truth. If the ROE won't let us win, say that too. That is what a winning organization looks like. It's structurally built to incentivize combat success, and it's led by people who care about maintaining that organizational focus. I don't need a bonus, and I'd give up the one I have to work in a winning organization.

JPME2 was the single stupidest course of any type I've ever taken.

Ok? WRT guard/reserve: in my platform, they don't. So that world wasn't part of my calculus.

I bet 1 bottle of whiskey that he will not. Takers?

Valid. For those on the fence as I was a few years ago: I took the money because I weighed the pros and cons of my first decade and decided I wanted more of what I'd done. However, they sent me to school and staff with no return path to the fight. Basically, I rolled the dice and lost. For now. If I could do it over, fully grasping that AD ultimately is a dice roll no matter your strats or checked boxes, I probably would still roll. Maybe you'll get lucky and land a cool job if you stay AD. Maybe your timing is good. But if you're a fence-sitter don't be deceived into thinking there is a "plan" other than feed human flesh into the assignment grinder and spread it wherever seems good at the moment to whoever happens to be spreading that day. Buyer beware; stay long enough and you'll roll snake eyes. On the other hand, if you have a combat itch that can only be scratched in AD, roll those dice and good luck to you!

Never had any issues with PACWIND......

That's not this discussion, I didn't say that, and no idea how he'd respond but SECDEF can't give money he doesn't have. I'm simply pointing out that if you want to solve problems, one of the first steps is separating facts from assumptions. Is it a fact that "falling on their sword" would accomplish nothing and be futile? How do you know that if it hasn't been done? as to your first question above: if I were a service chief looking for money and willing to be fired for speaking truth, I would "fall on my sword" over the issue of BRAC. There's your wasted billions.

That is an unproven assumption you are treating as fact.

Awesome post by you & beerman. Now that I'm on staff, I can see the truth of this situation from a perspective I didn't previously understand. However, I still don't get why we haven't seen a GO do as you state above. We are facing a crisis. Either our leaders disagree and think our force can continue stumbling through it, or they're unwilling to make the level of stink required to fix it. Either way: WTF? The worst part is these discussions aren't happening with any depth or introspection in my office..... only on an internet chat board.

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