spaw2001

This argument is getting tired. Many of the "heralded line pilots" you suggest typically lack balance. Yeah they are good at flying but when it came to office work, personal development, etc... they were shitty. The fastest of burners had balance. Many are patches who are extremely proficient at flying and also know how to play the game and make their leadership look good. Yes, there are some careerists that make a living planning bbqs. On the otherside, there are some line pilots who get screwed. Those are the outliers. The mean of successful officers on the career bell curve are typically dudes that are good at flying but also bring value to the unit on the admin side. Stop using the bell curve tails to generate base ops red meat. Generals and even squadron commanders in today's air force are not paid to fly.

Another silly baseops unsubstantiated rumor. Creech the mother of all black holes released 3 to staff this cycle and plenty of others to various assignments

A bunch of 11M rpa dudes were approved at creech so not sure what the methodology is

Based on that logic, shouldnt everybody in the AF remain eligible and no year groups should close out? What if an 11F wants to separate? Is it unfair that AF needs dictates they are ineligible? Same with location. Why should an 11M manning a critical billet be released when they can just release one in a non-critical/overmanned billet and save backfill PCS costs? Luckily for all applicants, AFPC probably isnt this smart to look this deeply into it.

Yes expanded waiver authority per the adsc matrix on mypers. Wasnt clear about that in previous post.

I sit on the staff perch. My leadership has kept pretty close comms with AFPC sep. Surprised others are in the wilderness. The VSP apps being adjudicated pre May 1 are ones not requiring adsc waivers. The guy recently denied '03 11M was denied because his year group closed out on the matrix (probably because people they approved had no adsc or adsc closing out imminently). After May 1, sep branch plans to adjudicate applications using RDTM, yr group matrix, and ADSC from least to most. So, if you are an '05 11M with 4 yrs, a Gi bill, and TA that is going to look less favorable than say a clean kill 2 yrs ADSC left. While it will not be a primary consideration, due to some pushback, there will be some weighted consideratiom given to where someone is stationed (i.e 11M RPA dude). After all, a particular weapons systems cannot go from mission capable to non mission capable virtually overnight. Overall, however, afpc plans to primarily use the assignment system to redistribute mission requirements, so leadership is expecting approvals even at bases with "mission requirements" just perhaps fewer. I guess we will all see soon...

No problem. I have had the fortune/misfortune of sitting on the wing perch watching all the info funnel down. I will say this latest email seems to give the most hope to adscs being waived to some degree. Furthermore, why would afpc create a separate application window for people impacted if they will then turn around and deny everyone with adscs again? With regards to the psdms still referencing rated afscs not being waived, the email alludes to the fact that this is because they have yet to receive the waiver authority from haf.

Our base received an official email from Afpc with questions and answers yesterday. -Afpc is still waiting on a memo from haf expanding adsc waivers for health professionals and rated personnel. - A new eligibility matrix will be posted removing around 500 Airmen from eligibility (does not specify officer/enlisted). - People with extended afscs will have a separate application window to alleviate the initial denials Timing on all this is still tbd

I think he is a senior airman promoted below the zone

Our personnel OIC here says to reference LADSC for waiverable VSP ADSCs. As always, it is anyones's guess though. 13-65 does clearly summarize that additional waivers will be considered for palace chase because the AF gets recoupment in the form of guard/reserve commitment. This is in the top of the palace chase section.

I went through the 2011 AF VSP hunger games so trust me, very cynical about any of these programs. Yet, this is the first somewhat logical action the AF has initiated. They are steering MAF folks towards Palace Chase because as the psdm suggests there is a massive shortage in guard/reserve pilots so logically, why should the AF pay people to get out and completely waive ADSC when they can fulfill guard/reserve requirements? So, at the end of the day the AF in its twisted way, has provided a pathway to get out and some level of clarity. It is perhaps not what everyone wants to hear because it doesnt include getting paid to get out. This still doesnt really answer why they would place people on an eligibility matrix but thats AFPC for ya.

Havent had the chance to read PSDM yet. Any talk on pilot ADSC waivers? Are they really going to waive 5 years of someone's UPT commitment i.e for an 2006 11M? Seems fishy to me as they pulled the "only 6 months of ADSC waived" card last VSP despite insisting everyone was eligible!

RDTM is the 2 letter code found on your surf where your flying gates are listed based on your aircraft. This code then applies to your core AFSC in that all MAF pilots, for instance, are 11Ms but have different RDTMs based on what airframe they fly. This gets tricky for rpa pilots that have not recategorized to rpas permanently. Eventhough their duty afsc and core AFSC may signify 11U for rpa pilot on a surf, their RDTM codes still shows their previous aircraft. AFPC initially released a list that showed all rpa pilots as 11Us regardless of background (I.e MAF or CAF) but then they recently re-issed the list based off of RDTM which reassigns rpa pilots' core AFSC based on previous airframe unless they have chosen to voluntarily recat to 11U. Confusing I know

Yup, when he gave a talk at my base, he brought this up specifically. He made the point that logic/common sense should define AFIs and not the other way around. He used the example that everytime a government vehicle is driven, AFI dictates that we are supposed to check the oil and do that dumb 13 point inspection. He said an airman asked him recently why we have to do this inspection because we don't expect our POVs everytime we drive them. CSAF agreed and told the airman to stop these inspections immediately. With that being said, guaranteed the long chain of command between airman and CSAF will make the airman continue to do these inspections because the AFI says so.

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