Skitzo

Negative transfer much?

Another for current or former EPs, or anyone who has recieved one. An EQ is pretty rare, I hear about them maybe once or twice a year. I know what the Vol 2 says about it is pretty vague outside of the very basics. What did you / the examinee do besides not getting downgraded to make you feel they were exceptionally qualified? Did they complete the eval and save the day with an actual EP? Have you ever felt someone deserved an EQ but were under pressure not to give any more out that semi annual / anuual cycle?

No cutoff guard / throttle gate in the T-6?

In my head I think ordering a no-notice checkride while deployed would be perfect for that particular scene.

Nearly spit my beer out! And the award for best adaptation of Col Nathan R Jessup's speech in A Few Good Men goes to Ol Patch. Nicely done, this would make for a good skit come Sqd Holiday party time.

I really thank everyone for their responses. I really think that this is one of the best things about baseops.net, so many different viewpoints and all of them valid. What was revealed was what I thought and that is despite having the responsibility of carrying an evaluator status that this status means different things to different communities. Some see checkrides as a necessary evil while others see it as the end all be all of performance despite it being a snapshot. Some of the best EPs I have known have said, allright checkride is over, you pass now lets beat up this pattern I have something I want you to learn. The worst EPs I have ever met have possessed an almost napoleonic complex and seemed to validate their existance on how many downgrades they could give or how many no notices they could subject guys to. Ever been on a checkride where you have been downgraded for a landing, then had the evaluator perform worse landings than you? I have! It wasn't their evaluation though!!! If I ever wear the EP hat I will most certainly give the guy the benefit of the doubt and if I am uncertain about an area that is not safety of flight related or another clean kill area I will most certainly take the uncertainaty as a learning point and debrief the individual accordingly. In my B-1 initial qual check I was downgraded for falling off the boom, it was valid and deserved. I look on that form 8 and I agree with it in its entirety. There were other areas that I could have been downgraded in and wasn't. Maybe that formed my intial opinion on checkrides as a necessary evil and not an end all be all.

Thanks for the comments, not my checkride just a story about a checkride. The story got me thinking and since there is such a wealth of experience / backgrounds I thought I'd ask here. Thanks for all the inputs it's hard to see the other side of the story without having been there done that. BTW- I'm not in UPT or anything, been around for a while now so I'm not worrying about UPT MASS Score or anything.

Current and former EPs: Have you ever administered a checkride (Q-1), subsequently told the examinee there could be a couple of downgrades, you would have to look something up to determine it. Upon further review you downgrade the examinee on said area. Does this pass the smell test?

I've never been so excited for an issue of AF Crimes, apparently their cease and desist tactic has worked.

Thought I'd throw this out there, know some guys who are going to be fundraising for the Special Ops Warrior Foundation and in an unconventional way, pub crawl style. Here's a link to the site with itinerary. https://pandapubcrawl.viviti.com/

is it not possible that he was a navy prior?

Call them WSOs so when some a-hole pilot comes along that thinks he's better than the WSOs you can name him WHAM, WSO hating a$$ monkey... CHAM doesn't have the same flow. Seriously all 11XXX's are pilots but we aren't all fighter, bomber or helicopter pilots. CSO is good umbrella term for all guys who went through that training but any 12XXX who has actually qualed and been signed off to drop high order explosives on the enemy deserves to call him/herself a WSO. I also think their AFSC title is specifically WSO either way in the jet I believe they probably still respond with crew position, OSO / DSO.

Ahem... 1953 f stick "Tops In Blue began in 1953 as a vision created by Col. Alvin E. Reilly to recognize the high caliber of entertainment available in the Air Force community. Over the span of 40 years, Tops In Blue has performed in films, produced albums and has been featured on national television with such legends as Ed Sullivan, Bob Hope, Lucille Ball, Barbara Mandrell and Alabama. In 1981, the cast performed the half-time show for the Garden State Bowl in New Jersey. With an estimated 110 million people watching worldwide, the cast presented the half-time entertainment show "The World of Children's Dreams" for Super Bowl XIX, Jan. 20, 1985." Might I add that the last time they performed at a Super Bowl it was during half time.... https://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=178

Sad to say that the TIB has existed since 1953. I think it is therefore part of our heritage. Why do we always have to keep the parts that are stupid?

Courtsey of Civil Air Patrol, awesome!

Can we get multi cam 2 piece flight suits too?

My feeling is that decorum should be followed when someone junior is correcting someone senior. Praise in public and correct in private is a term I have heard once or twice. Is it disrespectful for an officer to tell a lower ranking REMF/Shoe that they should come to attention, address me as sir, and ask to speak with me in private/away from my fellow officers? If time and conditions do not permit such decorum I don't believe the correction is warranted. If what I'm doing is about to kill me or someone else then you can throw decorum out the window. Furthermore to continue to correct me in such a way is unprofessional. Even if the offending shoe gets eternally butt hurt what leg do they stand on if they complain about me demanding an appropriate amount of respect? I believe what I'm asking for above is an appropriate amount of respect.

3 the same uniform Side note: If I am not deployed Oct 31st or whatever the deadline is for the ABU I will be wearing old skool Woodland BDUs with Black Boots. I have yet to wear ABUs and I will not go quietly.

This is getting borderline rediculous. I wonder how many billions of dollars have been wasted on uniforms. The tax payers should be pissed, heck I am anyways.

Yeah and I think for the most part everyone that wasn't a warrior was okay with not being a warrior. Most people don't choose the Air Force to be warriors. Those people choose the Marines or the Army. Not a dig on our true warriors in our service. Just saying IMHO a lot of people don't get into the Air Force for the "Profession of the Arms." Now they have leadership telling them they are warriors so whatever, they arm themselves with the only thing they have, a stack of travel vouchers or reflective belts.

https://www.af.mil/ne...sp?id=123239974 1/26/2011 - RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas (AFNS) -- Air Force officials announced their plans Jan. 26 for the fiscal 2011 Aviator Continuation Pay program to help retain active-duty pilots and combat-systems officers who are trained as remotely piloted aircraft pilots. The ACP program allows some active-duty, rated aviators to qualify for a monetary bonus in exchange for a service-commitment-contract agreement. Officials aim to retain those pilots who are approaching the end of their initial undergraduate flying training commitment as well as uncommitted pilots and eligible combat systems officers in the 12U Air Force specialty, who are trained as RPA pilots and have fewer than 13 years of service. "This year's ACP Program is designed to retain eligible rated officers and stabilize the force today and in the future in response to supporting Air Force and joint-warfighter missions," said Col. David Slade, the Air Force Personnel Center's assignments director. "It also serves as a continued commitment to the development of critical skills in support of emerging technologies." Although ACP is still necessary because there is a critical shortage in some rated career fields, this year's ACP program applies to a smaller pool of eligible candidates than in the past. "Although we are undermanned in some rated career fields, the success of past ACP programs as well as record high retention has resulted in a smaller ACP program than usual," said Maj. Eric Weber, of the force management office for Air Force Manpower and Personnel Career fields that have stabilized include air-battle managers and combat-systems operators. Therefore, air battle managers and non-RPA categorized CSOs are not eligible for ACP in fiscal 2011, based on the health of their career fields. The fiscal 2011 ACP program offers two agreement options for rated officers. They include a five-year contract for initial-eligible pilots and three-, four- and five-year contracts for uncommitted pilots and CSOs operating as 12U RPA pilots. Annual ACP values are $25,000 for initial-eligible pilots and $15,000 for uncommitted-eligible pilots and 12U RPA pilots. Air Reserve component officers are not eligible under this program, but are eligible under separate Air Force Reserve Command and Air National Guard programs. This year's ACP program is in effect until Sept. 30.

Maybe its all related to the O-6 lobotomy?

wait till the first person ends up drinking a magnet

Maybe it will increase the accuracy of the AWACS traffic calls if they know one of their targets is actually stationary.

Update... they actually posted it. https://www.386aew.afcent.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123237055