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This forum is about to eat up right wing propaganda stating the government shutdown is the Dem’s fault. Even though it’s a Republican controlled House that didn’t pass a budget bill. Guess it would probably be too embarrassing to admit that President Musk’s tweets to tell republicans to not pass any bills had more impact than First Lady Trump. https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-backed-spending-bill-voted-down-house-with-government-shutdown-looming.amp

The irony in this statement is quite honestly hilarious. Let me break it down by demonstrating how the “other side” would use the exact same drivel: “I don’t think Biden is a saint, but I also think that your calling him a criminal when he has clearly been targeted by the exact type of personal prosecution that Trump used as an excuse to dismiss charges against himself is ironic.” Realize you live in a bubble that you have created - or allow to exist - yourself. I fully agree that people like Biden and Hillary should face the consequence of their actions. If you want to selectively ignore the hundred of pages of legal evidence along with dozens of claims that Trump is a financial, national security, and sex criminal, while coming to this forum excited about Hunter Biden crime pdfs, you’re biased. The compromise of values is when you selectively choose to only criticize one side of politics because you want to “win.” It is reasonable to vote for Trump just as it’s reasonable to vote for Kamala as long as you can be critical of their faults. Problem is, you guys can’t be. It’s not socially acceptable for your bubbles. And yes, I hear the counter arguments now, “I never said I liked Trump.” You guys just typically draw the line at calling him out for his crimes for some reason.

Sorry, do you know what whataboutism is or do you just say big words to try to sound smart? And are you intending to be this divisive? I clearly addressed the point you made by stating that Biden should not have pardoned Hunter. Even called it an abuse of power. Done. Whataboutism would have had me avoid that point and only talk about counter accusations. Stating that Trump is also bad (and has and almost definitely would have done the same) after addressing your point is simply a sarcastic observation. You all are just scared to approach those comments because none of you know how to effectively address them. Or you struggle to understand how to reconcile the obvious paradoxes in your moral compasses within what you would like to believe are superior conservative worldviews. A worldview in which you all gloat about electing a cheating, lying, criminal into the presidency. Yes, I have citations. At least you can cope by focusing blindly on how the other side is bad. It’s called cognitive dissonance as I’ve stated numerous times before. I get it, Kamala sucks. I’m glad she didn’t win in many ways, just like you. But you guys are compromising your own morals and doing more harm than good for society with how you address those that were slightly on the other side of the scales when deciding between two absolute turds. China right now is excited you are playing into their hands. Meme posted on Election Day made me think of you all:

Totally unacceptable to pardon your son like that, an abuse of power. Which is why Dems are obviously publicly upset and non supportive. https://www.mediaite.com/news/biden-supporters-slam-hunter-biden-pardon-decision-utter-bullsht/ The good thing is, we’re finally getting a president in the seat that wouldn’t abuse his power to pardon folks simply because they’re family related. For example, wouldn’t it be crazy if a sitting president pardoned his daughter’s father in law, just because he has close ties? And he surely wouldn’t do that to then make him a high ranking ambassador in a future administration. That would be absolutely absurd, something a democrat would do. I for one am glad that we are going to uncover the corruption of all people, regardless of their position, party, ties, or influence. Every person charged with felonies, regardless of who they are, should face the consequences of those actions, especially if convicted by the legal system.

Yes! Preach gurl! Very. Important. Points. With. Periods. We. Totally. Consider. Evidence. On. This. Forum. So. It’s. Worth. Your. Time. To. Present. It. To. The. Group. And most importantly, even if convicted of 34 felonies, still innocent! It’s called cognitive dissonance people!

Translation: Because this is my side, I care more about technicalities than if our attorney general committed actual sex crimes against minors. Cherrypicking FBI results and choosing to get mad at which ones you want to get mad at is called “cognitive dissonance.” Hurr durr, Hunter laptop investigation bad and should be checked. Matt Gaetz sex crimes good. Seeing previous military officers compromise themselves is half funny half sad.

I want to echo ClearedHot here and say “Orange Man not my favorite.” But with that being said, I’d also like to say that his TS/SCI/SAP documents he stored at his house and lied about are NOTHING COMPARED TO HILLARY OR BIDEN. Have you seen the DNC lately? They recently tried to make me have gay sex with a transvestite immigrant. Fuck democrats. Thats the forum, buddy.

So there’s one extremely biased and oversimplified viewpoint. Heres another one for your consideration (over 80 republicans voted a week before): https://newrepublic.com/post/186541/marjorie-taylor-greene-hurricane-helene-relief-government-funding Also recall that congress has the power of the purse.

Bro, Trump is gonna let Christianity reign, and you gotta appreciate that. “States rights” is a dog whistle for we can finally jail people who get abortions. Which is a monumentally unpopular national policy and anyone who supports it is a piece of religiously indoctrinated trash. I bet some states would vote for segregated schools again, and this forum would celebrate that as some constitutional victory. Its hilariously out of touch. If you think that inflation is due to the Biden admin, you love propaganda. Trump only did quantitative easing his whole term and then had more cash incentives than Biden right before he was fired. What exactly do you think Biden did that caused inflation? Also, oil and gas drilling are at ALL TIME highs brother. This is also a real tough one for them because of record stock growth and record unemployment under Biden. So you have to suspend reality and say they are causing inflation when we know it was COVID response that caused it. The border is a real policy, and Biden and Kamala have done a poor job here. Focus here and maybe you’d sound less delusional. But it’s still a small subset of problems. Also hilarious to see these victims on here thinking they’re fighting the Nazis by voting for Trump. Trump has done his fair share of debasing the constitution, splitting the country, and wreaking havoc. People think just as much the guy who said he’d be a dictator on day 1, the guy who helped cause a literal riot on the capital after losing (which he hilariously admits now), and the guy who said he’d go after Harris campaign donors with jail time as a threat to democracy. Wake up and stop listening to talk radio as your only source of news Trump Foreign policy is working out greeeeaaat. China is surpassing us militarily and Iran essentially has nukes. Both things Trump helped with. Cool! The republicans unfortunately are gonna lose because they can’t say that Trump is a disaster. Hopefully he doesn’t run again and the republicans can actually have a real policy baseline that isn’t just repackaged theology. Youll see that many believe the policies that matter aren’t different enough. So now it comes down to abortion (Trump loses). It comes down to trust and hope (Trump heavily loses). It comes down to not having Jan 6 happen again (Trump loses). You just needed to ditch Trump, the way that the Dems ditched Biden. Rs deserve this.

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” - 1984

Listen, don’t take it the wrong way. Biden just didn’t have a chance, and now it’s looking like things are advantage-Dems. The republicans are now scrambling because their whole platform was just making fun of Biden with almost no substantive policy. Why do Republicans not just guarantee the win by putting forth a slightly less divisive, less old, more moderate candidate? I (and many others) would vote for a different Republican over Harris (although I do like Walz).

All of the arguments here the past couple of weeks: It’s not that hard. Pick a new candidate and you’d have a chance. The Dems did it and are gonna win because of it. If Rs had gone Nikki Haley before Biden dropped out, this wouldn’t even be close. Trump can only win against a candidate at terrible as Biden.

Sorry you don’t believe in the justice system. Read the case. 12 jurors decided unanimously he committed a crime. You just want to say it’s BS because it fits your narrative, but I am 100% certain you haven’t looked into it further. The evidence is clearly there. Just stick your fingers further in your ears.

You literally did exactly what I said you would do. A non sequitur that focuses only on one failure and entirely avoids addressing the absolutely appalling and sad performance from Trump as well, because you are so polarized and don’t want Biden to win. Check your morals brother. Don’t be blinded by politics.