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Way to twist yourself around this one. First you equate business’ vaccine mandates to racial discrimination? Sorry. Not even close. Offensive to those groups who really have been discriminated against. Second, you say you could care less whether people do drugs. Utter bullshit. I bet you’d care a lot if some meth addled truck driver mowed down somebody you loved. Third, you say SWAPA should be allowed to strike based on SWA’s mandate which makes me wonder if you’ve ever heard of the RLA or have the slightest clue how airline union negotiations work.

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Look, dude: is the system perfect? Far from it. Do (gasp) politics sometimes play a role in various bureaucratic processes? Of course. Does that mean you should never trust the FDA again? Up to you, but if you say no, you might want to avoid the supermarket because you currently rely on the FDA (your government) to guarantee the safety of everything from ground beef to toothpaste. Flawed as they are, I would rather trust them than altrightcirclejerk.com to ensure the safety of the shit that I consume.

Source? Ya know, when you hear shocking numbers like that, most of the time it’s worth doing a little research. I don’t believe that stat for a second. All of the information & data I’ve seen suggests that you are many times less likely to get COVID after being vaccinated. I’d love to see the “source” that’s peddling the bullshit that you insist on spreading here. Oh I know, I know: the media & big pharma’s in bed with the FDA & uncle Joe & the Gates/Clinton/Epstein cabal so who can you really trust other than what what you hear on bitchute and 4chan, right?

Brown is basically 2 airlines: international & domestic. Fred is similar. On the international side flying heavies, 12 to 14 day worldwide trips are common, but there are options for shorter trips. Long trips = fewer reports: popular with commuters. Shorter trips are somewhat more popular with the folks who live in base. On the intl light twin side there is a similar mix of trip lengths, the difference being most of the flying is intra theater. I.e. you are likely to deadhead to Europe or Asia & remain in that part of the world for the duration of your trip. On the domestic side there is a very wide variety. Turns have you home every night, there are week on/week off trips that often have commercials on one or both ends, and reserve usually yields you a few extra days at home. Domestic is where most of the night sort flying is as well which is why I avoid it. Big picture: there really is something for everyone. One thing to keep in mind about brown is that there is one pay scale regardless of equipment. This means there is no artificial pressure for anyone to “upgrade” to larger equipment if all they really want to do is fly the Bus in the CONUS. This also means that you will “max out” pay much earlier here than elsewhere. Delta may have a slightly higher max wide body pay, but your chances of ever being senior enough to be an international 777 captain there are highly dependent on when, and at what age you get hired. Also, the pension is huge & pretty much non existent outside brown and purple. Downside being flying on the back side of the clock may mean you don’t get to live very long to enjoy it.

This. Nobody would argue the N word is ok to throw around as long as it’s only directed at Nigerians.

Let me ask the mods directly: Why have my posts taking issue with another member’s use of a racial slur been removed? I see the post with the slur is still up. Please don’t tell me you are ok with a post using the word “ch**k” but not with posts questioning whether we want that here. I have enjoyed the banter here for many years. It gets spicy at times & is definitely not constrained by political correctness. That said, I believe racial slurs cross a line & that said line exists on this forum. I’d really like to continue to believe that is true.

Thanks for the reply. Glad to hear the motors are solid & that the BUFF is finally getting some attention. Even big girls need lovin’ sometimes! 😉

Is the F130 one of RR’s triple spool motors? Don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade & I’m sure they’ll be an improvement but I’d take a GE or even a Pratt option over RR any day of the week after experiencing all three on my company’s 757 fleet. Seemed like the RRs were far more problematic than the others. Hopefully y’all get years of reliable service out of these ones.

Sick burn bro.

Except they do. There have been vaccine mandates for schoolchildren for decades. There have been vaccine mandates for the military for just as long. Employers in various industries including airlines have required certain vaccines for years. So, sorry, but you're clearly wrong here. Public health requirements have existed without major issues in free and open societies for a very long time. They are not mutually exclusive concepts.

Rog. Sorry ‘bout the thread drift.

Maybe because they were banned by Congress from even studying the issue: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_Amendment

Not true. While the vaccines are no longer considered to provide the near total immunity that seemed so promising during initial trials, they are still effective lowing your chances of contracting covid. The talking point of right wing media has been that "well you CAN still get COVID after being vaccinated, so what's the point?" They are being disingenuous and fail to mention that while possible, breakthrough infections are still relative rare, even with Delta. So while you MAY be able to contract and spread the disease after being vaccinated, you are FAR les likely to than an unvaccinated person. https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/covid-variant-vaccine While research suggests that COVID-19 vaccines are slightly less effective against the variants, the vaccines still appear to provide protection against severe COVID-19. For example: Early research from the U.K. suggests that, after full vaccination, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is 88% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant. The vaccine is 96% effective at preventing severe disease with the COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant. The research also showed that the vaccine is 93% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 virus caused by the alpha variant. Early research from Canada suggests that, after one dose, the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine is 72% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant. One dose of the vaccine is also 96% effective at preventing severe disease with the COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant. The Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine is 85% effective at preventing severe disease with the COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant, according to data released by Johnson & Johnson.

This is a result of people intentionally giving you a limited piece of the information. Your concern might be a valid one if it existed in a vacuum. However you are 1: Far less likely to get COVID if you have been vaccinated and 2: If you do get a breakthrough infection, you are likely to have a much smaller viral load and will be contagious for a shorter period of time.

My response was less directed at you personally and more at what seems to be a prevalent attitude on the right. I didn't intend to attribute those positions to you personally, but I realize my post could be construed as such. To be perfectly honest though, I meant it to be somewhat inflammatory. I think 600+K deaths makes masks and vaccinations a pretty small sacrifice for most of us. I think many of you are drawing your "line in the sand" in a completely ridiculous place. For me, that line is somewhere past mask mandates, but well before Australian style indefinite lockdown.

Yep. We’d be much better off if no one let the gub’mint influence their decisions. Stop signs? Ha! No one’s gonna stop my liberty! Speed limits? Fuck that. There should be no limits on MY freedom motherfuckers! DUIs? This is the US of A goddamnit! If red blooded freedom lovers can’t drink and drive here, where can they? We should be setting the example for the rest of the free world. Somewhere there’s a line between shitting on your freedoms and common sense rules and laws.

Good luck. Kiwis are worse than the Aussies. Currently enjoying their bubble, completely isolated from the outside world. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re still completely cut off 24 months from now.

The Aussies have gone off the deep end WRT COVID. Airline crew laying over in SYD are literally escorted to their hotel rooms by armed guards. The country mishandled vaccine rollout badly and has no viable plan to open its economy back up anytime within the next year. People there were lulled into a false sense of security by low case loads pre-delta. Now that Delta is running rampant, they’re shocked by their own lack of planning.

Any reason you can’t get one on the economy? Stationed overseas?

Eagerly awaiting the real life Grand Theft Auto videos that will undoubtedly ensue as these guys try to teach themselves to operate all their new toys.

Not arguing your sources are wrong, just that they don’t support the argument you are trying to make. Go back and read what I wrote. Dr. Bagadonuts professing his personal opinion to CNN does not equal the overall consensus of the medical establishment.

Again, "medical professionals" spans a wide range of individual experience, political viewpoints, religious viewpoints, etc. I don't think it's exactly news that there were some medical professionals that held the controversial viewpoint that protests of any kind were worth the COVID risk. I'm sure there were doctors and nurses that also believed anti-lockdown protests were well worth the risks. That's not the same thing as the CDC, NIH, or Surgeon General making an official statement on the matter. You seem to like to take the fight into the weeds when the real argument is at 30K feet.

I completely agree that we need to go to great efforts in order to keep our economy open and running. If only there was an easy, relatively cheap, safe, and effective way to treat a disease that has killed hundreds of thousands and has the potential to sicken and kill many more, all while keeping main street open. Hmmmmmm 🤨

Last time I checked, one of the tenets of Western medicine is that we don't make morality judgements when deciding who to treat. I kind of prefer it that way. Here's my answer to your old age example: It depends on what he died of. Old age? Well, kinda hard to argue with that one, but if he was murdered we wouldn't just say "well he was about to die anyway" and then decline to investigate and prosecute the murder.