Mish_Hacker

Thanks for the info. My ISR said that the 2nd endorsement would not be completed until I actually get approved. I do have the unit, base, and position number on that section of the 1288.... I'll try to get a hire letter to attach with it just in case.

Anybody else out there denied for FY14 VSP and applying for standard Palace Chase? While I wait for SAF/PC to make a decision, I'm just curious of what my chances are. 2005 11B 2 yrs ADSC remaining (UPT and GI Bill Xfer) Already hired by a Reserve unit (did anyone attach a letter to their application?) SQ/WG recommend approval

Just talked to my 11B T-38 buddy at Laughlin who applied for VSP. He got an email that said approved, but then it said disapproved and ineligible for FY14 FM. Final disposition - Disapproved. Still appears to be zero 11Bs approved for VSP with UPT ADSC (awaiting year group info for the Exec at Minot, I suppose). One 11B approved for PC.

What year group was he? I've only heard of 02 and earlier bomber pilots approved... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

VSP denied. No longer eligible for RIF. 2005 11B. ADSC oct 16 for UPT, dec 16 for GI bill. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Dear AFPC, Please consider adjusting your communication process. A weekly (sometimes) update that reads like a staff meeting powerpoint slide to your superiors (ie processed x of y applicants with z ineligible) shows that you check the box for "communication" and "timely updates," but it provides marginal utility to those who NEED the information only you can provide. Likewise, any time you take an action that raises questions (like approving a bazillion 11M applications on one day while not processing others), you should consider releasing a statement then. For example on Monday afternoon send an email/Tweet/FB post/Pulse, "Due to the variations in final considerations of Force Management numbers from different components of Air Staff, AMC pilot applications are being processed first. We anticipate Air Staff approval/disapproval for 11X applications by ____day, and will notify those members as soon as ____day. Additionally, we have updated the FY14 voluntary matrix based off of the applicants already notified. It is attached/available on MyPers. This information is also being sent to your local FSS and commanders. If you have any specific questions regarding your year group/afsc status, please contact your commander who will have direct access to their equivalent here at AFPC. Thanks for your patience, and may the odds be ever in your favor." Love, The "Hopefuls"

Sure, the ratio of applicants to overages could be higher in the bombers, but only if the published metrics are all wrong. For 05 11Bs, we were about 11% overage (7/62). However, I would argue we have a much lower application ratio compared to the 11Ms. From 3 of the 5 bomber bases, I only counted two applicants in my year group (again, I don't have all the numbers). Just using Dyess as an example, we had 5 total bomber pilot VSP applications for 2+ squadrons. However, we had 40 applications from the two 130 squadrons. That may not translate exactly across the AF, but I don't think we are applying at a higher rate than 11Ms, and our overages are fairly similiar for most year groups. I do agree that losing an airframe would also help, but then there's the Altus C-17 IP exodus (airframe not going away). Based on the numbers I've seen, I still can't understand the difference. Especially since NO bomber pilots with UPT ADSC have been approved yet... Maybe we're just too good at CAS :)

Not sure why bomber applications require additional scrutiny....

Nothing for b1 or 130 as far as I know, though I'm not really tapped into the 130 numbers. All I heard was that 40 dudes in the 317th applied on Feb 6. Silence since then. If I hear anything I'll pass it on... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Jsanto, still all quiet here at dyess... No news Anybody heard anything at Minot, whiteman, or Ellsworth? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well, no sleep last night. I wonder what time AFPC starts working....

jsanto1, I'm B-1. I know of one other '05 11B that applied (another Bone guy), but that's all I've heard. Thanks for the info. Have any Buff guys been denied? Or have not many applied? If you're looking for any other 11B numbers from the Bone, let me know...

BoneIP, are you at dyess or Ellsworth? I only know of one other 03 11B that applied... Good luck, dude Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Do u happen to know how many applied, esp 2005 yr group? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

For those not yet approved, TFSC said today that all their computer systems were running extremely slow. So, hopefully stuff trickles out tonight and tomorrow. I'm grasping at straws, now...

Any 11Bs get approved? I still had no news as of 1630 CDT... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm actually leaning more towards June 1st. Multiply 1.25 times the cumulative years in service, subtract DEROS, divide by the greatest ADSC, add to the deployment return date (but only if it is the third Saturday after a full moon--otherwise, ineligible), and finally multiply this by the number of FY14 deadlines met by AFPC. Add this equation to June 1, and I get June 1. Actually, conditioning has just taught me that the only thing I know to be true is that NOTHING will happen when AFPC says it will.

It would be nice if we didn't have to go outside the service to address the concerns of those within it. Is this what our organization has become? Thousands of officers and enlisted troops can't get resolution or straight answers on a 5-month program until T.C. updates his blog? I really appreciate what he writes and the attention it brings to our situation; I'm just disappointed our organization is either incapable or unwilling to address this internally. Perhaps this feeling of isolation is why so many of us want out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think people are referencing the CSAF's comments that anyone denied VSP and subsequently RIFd should receive the 1.25. However, I'm not sure AFPC listens to the Chief of Staff... or logic.

Still no change for me today... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So, Thursday thru the weekend, minus the Fri-Sat "down for maintenance time"

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan. If you apply for a voluntary program and are denied, you will not be RIFd. Period." Hopefully, your SQ/CC talked to someone at AFPC that is not the person in charge of setting FY14 Force Management deadlines. Or maybe hopefully they did, and their info is as good as an AFPC deadline. Lots of fun questions for Commander's Calls now...

The mypers website says notifications will occur by"approximately ten days after the window closes." Nothing beats an "approximate" deadline. They probably meant 10 business days... Stupid us Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The tenth day since the VSP window closed has ended, predictably, without any more VSP approvals....