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I wonder who the guy was that decided we needed that flap on the sleeve pocket and knows what he created.

Off topic but they can shitcan that whole ing shebang. AFSOC, Mil. and GS types, have transformed a fairly efficient training organization into a giant self-licking ice cream cone. No way you need that many stars to do the job. But hey, more jobs for Generals right? Weeks standing orders were to make training more efficient. OK, step one, more jobs for FGOs and GOs, riiight. I showed up at Hurbie in Janurary and was flying by myself in March. And you know what, the job I was doing is almost exactly the same as it is today. How did we do that?

I know Spoo, it is fascinating, but people actually did call it jogging in the 80s.

It's a plan to get rid of all pilots in key positions at AFSOC and it's almost complete. I also wonder why they named the training section the Air Warfare Center. Makes them feel more warlike maybe?

Back in the 80s an 8th SOS pilot didn't show up for work after his leave was over. Thought to be AWOL. Turned out he had been jogging , on Lewis Turner for those of you familiar, at night with no ID and was hit by a car. Someone in the 8th put two and two together and thought they should go check out the unidentified male that had been in the hospital, unconscious, for a few days. He remembered reading it in the paper but didn't think anything of it. So they head over to FWB hospital and it was him. Not the case here but I think of this story whenever I hear about a missing/AWOL person.

My how things change. In the old Talon you could couple the autopilot to the TF/TA radar. Nobody that I know of ever trusted it. Never seen it used. Don't know if the 111 guys used theirs much or not.

I guess it's the German chicks until it comes back.

5,000 hours in those those whistlin' shithouses, Loved/Hated every minute of it. The sounds, the smells, the vibrations, the feelings of boredom coupled with exitement(yes, tingly too) I need a beer to wash down the lump in my throat

The real problem stems from all the air refueling capable airplanes we built.

Like a flu shot.

I'm not scoffing, I posted earlier that I'm pro FE, but you wont find a post, or statement from me anywhere saying an airplane designed without an FE or Nav should have one. I point out mistakes that were made on both sides. So it's not about FEs being removed, they were never there to begin with. Shit happens with and without FEs and Navs.

I forgot what thread I was in. Anyway I know of two instances where a 16th SOS Evaluator Gunner took down co-pilots. The way it worked then was the gunner filled out the Fm8 and the CC either concurred or non concurred. Both cases he concurred. The infraction? Walking between #3 engine and the fuselage while the engine was running. Yes, it happened twice, several years apart.

Yep, who knew that Airbus was right about computers and aviation. Is it part of the training to ask if they miss the FE or does it just always come up in conversation?

One more question. Who the hell is wearing a wedding ring while TDY? I'm kidding

They won't be doing it they'll be relying on a computer to do it for them. It is the new flying world yall live in.

Yep, and the eng called go around(I think twice) in Kuwait, still didn't help. You have to make sure the guy driving heard what you said and it registered in his brain. A pilot fighting with the plane to get it to do something and not saying anything was concern for me. In those situations I always tried to get them to say something, let us know what your thinking, let us help you, this is a crew airplane. Eighteen of my twenty-one years of flying was as an FE so I am pro FE. I think I earned my pay when I was doing it. I wish all of us did. My best compliment from a pilot was that if all FEs were like you they would never have designed the J model, then he bought me a beer.

It almost seems they are trying to make this place suck way more than it has to

That's always a fun argument. Didn't help the crew in Honduras though. Late 90s. This smells a lot like that. I no longer have the privelige so I cant. Read the AIB after I posted that.

Missed meals for all flightline folks!

Inertia?

You mean the engineer has nothing to fuss about during decent?.......oh wait.. I was just putting a little legacy humor in a Jay thread

Flaps, cross control and NTS.

Wonder how far back his "always" goes.

Hey, I'm glad they put the speed limit on the back gate road to 45 again.