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XL 18-03 T-38 F-22 Tyndall F-15C Kingsley C-130J Rammstein CV-22 Cannon A-10C MI ANG 2xSaudi

I can find out tomorrow. They have us grads sitting RSU until we PCS.

I was wondering about that. I didn’t know if it was related, but I know all the T-6s here were told to RTB for mx reasons.

https://m.aviationweek.com/defense/usaf-grounds-t-6-trainers-after-hypoxia-events The U.S. Air Force has grounded the Beechcraft T-6 Texan II training aircraft at Vance AFB, Oklahoma, after five pilots reported physiological episodes with hypoxia-like symptoms while flying. The Air Force’s 71st Flying Training Wing enacted an “operational pause” of T-6 flying operations on Nov. 15 after four T-6 instructor pilots and one student pilot assigned to Vance reported physiological incidents since Nov. 1, spokeswoman Terri Schaefer told Aviation Week Nov. 29. In each case, the aircraft’s backup oxygen system operated as designed and the pilots followed the correct procedures, landing safely, Schaefer said. The Air Force is investigating the incidents at Vance and has not yet identified a specific root cause, Schaefer said. The events were reported as “physiological events with hypoxia-like symptoms,” she noted. The Air Force uses the single-engine T-6 turboprop as a basic trainer for all student pilots. From the T-6, students choose one of three advanced training tracks based on their class standing. Future fighter/bomber pilots next train in the T-38 Talon; pilots on the airlift/tanker track fly the T-1A Jayhawk; and helicopter/tilt-rotor trainees fly the TH-1H Huey. In addition to Vance, student pilots also train in the T-6 at Randolph AFB, Texas; Moody AFB, Georgia; Columbus AFB, Mississippi; Laughlin AFB, Texas; and Sheppard AFB, Texas. Since the grounding, Vance AFB has partnered with Air Education and Training Command, 19th Air Force and medical, functional and industry experts to determine the cause of the incidents. That effort has included reviewing procedures for physiological events, providing refresher physiological training, background briefs and Q&A with T-6 instructor pilots, Schaefer said. “Following the operational pause, we anticipate that flying operations at Vance Air Force Base will continue as usual, with added awareness and training concerning physiological events and the life-support equipment onboard the T-6 designed to protect pilot safety and ensure continued safety of flight,” Schaefer said. The T-6 incidents come as a spate of hypoxia-like cockpit incidents plague the Air Force and U.S. Navy fleets. Both the Air Force and Navy grounded fleets this year: the Navy’s T-45 Goshawk trainers and the Air Force’s F-35Asat Luke AFB, Arizona, the service’s premier F-35 training base. Similar incidents are also on the rise in the Navy’s F/A-18 Hornet and EA-18G Growler fleets.

It’s more of having 9 T-38 students and 1-2 fighters dropping. And they aren’t getting any mobility airframes; it’s all widebody ISR or AFSOC. We were explicitly told before our drop there would be no mobility assets for T-38.

They sent a stud to IFF on flying CAP. FY17 had bottom-of-their-class T-38 students going to fighters... Why? To let them get pushed out of the community and go back to being UPT or B-Course instructors?

Wow... the T-38 sims barely held a torch to what it was like to actually fly the jet. Phase II teaches you how to be a student pilot, while Phase III actually teaches basic airmanship. Where’s my popcorn?

Damn...

https://www.laughlin.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1377774/media-release-downed-aircraft-in-del-rio/ "LAUGHLIN AIR FORCE BASE, Texas -- An Air Force T-38 Talon assigned here at Laughlin Air Force Base, Texas, crashed at approximately 4 p.m. today approximately 14 miles northwest of the base near Spur 454 and U.S. 90 in Del Rio, Texas. At the time of release, Laughlin emergency response personnel and local responders were on scene to assist in recovery efforts. A board of officers will investigate the accident. Additional details will be provided as information becomes available."

Are we seeing more T-38 non-vols now that the class numbers are higher and the fighter drops are far fewer relative to FY17?

Can’t you make an actual poll on here? But yes, the 217 was development by the Department of Redundancy Department

Any E-8 Pilots/crew wish to share their insight? I don’t know of any here at UPT. I just dropped them out of T-38s.

Just dropped E-8s. I’m an older prior-E dude with a wife and 2 kids. Bonaire still a favorable location? I saw WR has a Chipotle... that’s a plus.

Yes.

XL T-38: F-16 F-15E T-38 U-28 RC-135 E-8 Fighter (Iraq)

There was also an F-15E.

Hey, at least it’s not RPAs. (No offense to the RPA dudes) Good luck, 18-01!

I drop next month and we were pretty much told it was for this exact reason. The b-courses are backed up with not enough manning to support the surge of fighter drops. It’s almost like basic math could have told them this would happen. I’ve been in long enough to experience this “full-on or full-off” knee-jerk reaction from the AF a few times.

I know dudes that graduated in Aug that are waiting until May for Holloman B-course.

T-38 students were told today to expect more bombers, AFSOC, Recon in FY18 drops. Great Viper Giveaway has concluded.

Dude, just be a good dude, work hard and trim. Help out your bros and use your time in the flight room efficiently. PM me if you want some info on DLF.

XL 17-14 T-38s F-16 - Holloman F-15C - Klamath Falls T-6 FAIP B-52 - Barksdale F-35 - Luke F-16 - Luke

They have to have instructors. Try can't only pulling from the CAF to have T-38 instructors. It's a balancing act way above my pay grade. "Robbing Peter to pay Paul" type of situation.

Yes.

We only had one fighter guy in my T-6 squadron and most of the rest were AMC or FAIPs. The stories of per diem, luxury hotels, and "T-Funs" swayed a lot of studs and helped make their decision. There were the horror stories of the -38 squadron making you do a thousand BF/OLs and the IPs making flying jets more of a hassle than it's worth. They were tossing around the idea of non-vols so they stole some T-38 IPs to talk to the studs, but if anything, it made it worse as it was too late (a week from track) and everyone had made up their minds.