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Saw that. An Alabama player just committed to FSU so it'd be hard to believe he did so without knowing Norvell was staying. Should be an interesting 48 hours.

Glad to see him leave, for selfish reasons. Probably didn’t like where CFB is headed. Interested to see who replace him, Lanning seems to be the leader. Hope Norvell isn’t a legitimate candidate.

Back to working on and driving my old cars on the weekends. Still interested to see how this portal ends up going. Wonder if Michigan is going to get to 1,000 wins twice and have to give up that title. Regardless, their ends did a hell of a job getting to Penix and making him look worse than he has all season and completely unlike the Heisman candidate he was.

If you've attended and graduated from a university and contribute financially you don't think that puts you in that tribe? Small pun intended.

My apologies, it's slightly offensive when you question a program's culture, which we've had to rebuild from rock bottom due to a previous DEI hire who was smoking weed with the players and out bangin' college chicks instead of leading his team. You don't understand why a team who went undefeated no longer wants to participate when they were left out in a historic decision? What happened last weekend? The teams with losses, lost. So results on the field matter, but they didn't for Florida State. I don't fault one of those guys who not playing - I think the entire university should have declined the invitation.

Ok... How many ACC Championship's does Miami have? Didn't you start as an ACC team like two decades ago? Have you ever finished what you started since coming to the ACC? Concur. Guys will continue to play if they have the opportunity to play for the NC. I guarantee you bowl games will get worse as far as participation next year when the playoff expands to 12 teams. And why play? Because as we've seen, results on the field during the regular season actually do matter despite what the talking heads at espn would like everyone to think.

I hope Washington wins it all.

42% of the team, 35 of the 85 players did not play in the game. It wasn't the third string players sitting out... Two of Georgia's players sat out. That game had absolutely no bearing on the level of talent that FSU or Georgia had. Some people say it is a culture problem, I don't see that. I think Mike Norvell has a great culture going on right now at Florida State. Why would players want to play a game that doesn't matter? And then risk getting hurt for no reason at all?

We have to move. We won't be able to compete with schools in the B1G and SEC who have marketing deals that pay them twice as much. The judge who has been assigned to the court case is an FSU grad for his bachelor's and law degree. No other sports bring in money, only football does. If our football team can't compete because we are in the ACC, then the other sports will suffer as well. I hope we go to the B1G. I despise ESPN and their affiliation with the SEC.

Rough day for FSU, fell from 3 to probably 11 with two five star flips. Props to Miami for killing it today.

National Signing Day today. Man how things have changed with NIL. I think FSU falls out of the top 3 and land around number 6 and KJ Bolden probably flips to UGA. I hear that Jeremiah Smith is making 7 figures for OSU after signing with them as the #1 player in the nation.

Didn't Napier just lose half of his first recruiting class to the portal? I like where things are headed in Gainesville.

@ClearedHot, looks like we're both going after Cam Ward. He's in Miami today and tomorrow and likely stopping by Tallahassee Thursday and Friday.

ESPN announced that College Gameday will be in Ireland for FSU v GT beginning of next year. I cannot wait to see the signs. FSU fans absolutely despise ESPN and specifically, Kirk Herbstreit, after their campaign against Florida State in order to validate an SEC team getting into the playoffs. I actually think my family is going to go. Can't wait to hear "F*CK KIRK HERBSTREIT" by thousands.

Half of his first recruiting class has entered the portal. Not sure how much longer Napier will be around, but I hope its for a hell of a long time!

It certainly has changed. It is a huge balancing game between bringing in talent for one or two years and potentially scaring off talent you recruit from High School and hope to build and retain. I was quite surprised at how many QBs went to the portal and wouldn't be surprised if FSU makes a play for one. I'd say the move to two super conferences has also caused some pretty significant issues that have only recently (Sunday) started to really show where the sport might be headed. It is a shame that it appears that this sport is only about money and is turning into NFL-lite. But maybe I'm part of the problem because I'm willing to contribute to our collective to keep us relevant.

And even if I didn't believe we would be competitive, why play the game if the results don't matter? If you have a 20 or 40% shot at winning, you play. Hell if you have a 10% shot wouldn't you take that? But yes, I believe we'd have a minimum 33% chance of beating any team who is in the playoff, with our backup QB.

Yes, I do. Tate would have been back - He was 20/27 for 247 yards if I recall in the game he played. Our defense has had 38 offensive possessions played against them since Jordan Travis went down, a single TD was scored, and that was due to a false penalty that is now being used to train CF referees on what not to call. Washington has struggled with teams most of the season. Alabama got beat at home by two scores and barely beat USF and an Auburn team who got beat by New Mexico State. Texas has also looked suspect and lost to a slightly above average OU. So yes. I do. Our defense has been lights out.

But they beat Michigan to get there. How did Cincinatti get in?

What about 13-0 > 12-1 Didn't get you there?

Like I said, I’m a fighter pilot. Things I love, I take personal. Even if I don’t have a direct effect on the result. That’s how it is, for better or worse. 13-0 > 12-1 Fighters > Helos

Because I was a fighter pilot, and enjoy competition.

Hit me up if you’re ever in San Diego. First three rounds on me. I get the sarcasm, but we’re similar people. Cheers.

So are the games entertainment or competition?

You thought the committee was “paid” differently. There were two teams who were about to be or are in the B1G, and a team that was about to be in the SEC. And they “got” one who is IN the SEC. Never before has a team gone from 8 to 4 and a team who won the championship and was undefeated dropped out of the top 4. ESPN owns the ACC contact for pennies. Hence why Clemson and FSU have been trying to get out of the GoR. I understand you don’t understand what is happening, it hasn’t been important to you, but money is why this happened despite results on the field. The ACC IS a garbage conference, (who beat the SEC soundly), but our contract doesn’t allow us to compete financially with other contenders. And we ARE a contender. We’d beat OSU with our QB3. Write it the fuck down. How would you feel if an undefeated OSU was left out of the playoffs.