celtic020

That's fair.

Shack. I don't know what effect CSAF was trying to create with this, but what's going to happen is that the DAs and the third look dudes will get a large majority of the slots. Will be tough to snag a slot if you're a layer below shiny penny. They should've left it alone.

Confirmed 2-line PRFs fall and later. I say Bravo.

Wonder what she did. Pretty brutal story overall -- seemed like she had her s*** together.

Not many.

Brutal confluence of events but I could totally see it -- you need some senior rater luck in this game. I'm off to school this summer with a DP 1-below and I'm fully anticipating a P out of the school MLR next year IPZ but whatevs. I'm just hoping by virtue of being in school during IPZ that I'll have a good chance. But hearing this story stings!

BPZ DP And IPZ P? Now you have me nervous.

Nav aka no transferrable job skills what so ever.

Everyone's gotta make a call on what's best for them and their families -- I certainly don't begrudge anyone deciding to get out or deciding to stay in....but trading information that can strengthen your record, PRF, and chances for promotion on future boards is worthwhile to me and I appreciate the discussion. To those bouncing to greener pastures, fly safe and hook me up with a buddy pass....Cheers!

You’ll get promoted with those numbers and that push. Remember, they have to promote some P records....if you have a strong P Record with the super P, your odds aren’t just good, they’re great. Another thing to consider is that there are a number of O-5 IPZ PRFs that are complete shit. You’ll be fine bro, don’t sweat the P. Once you get promoted, it’s all the same.

Was sort of hedging my bets approaching my last look for IDE in-res in case I was not selected as the window between non-select notification and IPZ board is somewhat tight. But your point is well-received -- I hope Fingers' intent will come to fruition regarding the IDE selection process because it directly impacted me favorably as a non-shiny penny, slightly above average O-3 turned pretty good O-4 who kept working hard rather than the legacy system where your career track was pre-ordained simply based on whether you were a school select on your O-4 board or not.

I feel fortunate my senior rater (Air Force 2-Star) did not use correspondence as a discriminator for in-res nominations. I had almost none of it done when I got selected for in-res. At least some folks are following the guidance, which actually makes sense. Using correspondence as a discriminator means they actually want you to do IDE twice....which is as dumb as it sounds.

Senior raters are instructed to not consider whether someone has completed IDE in corespondence when making nominations for IDE in Res central board and when determining DP allocation for BPZ. However, I think it’s a pretty safe assumption some, not all, senior raters and/or MLR members ignore this guidance. One thing is for certain: Completing an in-res IDE program or being en route to an in-res IDE program is a trump card for BPZ consideration and, at a minimum, makes you a lock IPZ.

1/3 BPZs with a pretty strong push line. I thought I was borderline to pull a DP at the MLR and but at a minimum this helps for IPZ next year. Good luck to IPZ folks getting their PRFs back the next couple weeks with the good boxed checked.

Touche.

I got a DP 1BPZ....would rather be lucky than good, I guess. What are my odds now...about 1 in 3?

Story of my life! All good either way -- but this is good context.

Lotta MLRs taking place in next week or 2....do we have any MLR recorders among us willing to share insight? I'm 1BTZ This year with an outside chance to get a DP....so I would be interested.

I was an alternate last year --- they notified me about 2 months prior to the ACSC start date that I had been bumped up off the alternate list. It was my second look....so I declined without prejudice and re-competed in my third look and got picked up for CGSC. Obviously, every situation is different and there are a LOT of factors that go into any decision (family, joint credit, timing, etc); my sense is that a lot more third look dudes are getting picked up for good schools due to the new policy of no-school selects so it may be worth rolling the dice if you can get a good nomination from your senior rater. I am not a shiny penny by any stretch of the imagination and was able to get something pretty good in my last look after being alternate in my second look. Best of luck amigo.

IPZ. It's still difficult to pull a DP from the school MLR BTZ from what I've gathered. My point from the post was that if you're in student status for your IPZ look and you get a P or DP, your chances at getting promoted are nearly 100....so it's not that big of deal of you come away from the school MLR with a P.

Absolutely. This happened to my buddy on the last O-5 board. Only 2 eligibles and he came away with a P at the MLR. Senior Rater wrote push line "If I had a DP...it would be his" and he got promoted.

I actually asked an O-6 about this very recently. I'm 1 BTZ this year and heading to Army CGSC in residence next year. He said if you're in school with a NO PRF going up to the student MLR, as long as you don't have anything derogatory in your record, you will be promoted whether you receive a P or DP. In-residence carries that much weight (which if you're in school in your IPZ look...your current duty title will indicate such). I was somewhat concerned about it since I did not complete ACSC in correspondence....wanted to wait until I had my 3 looks for school before deciding to bite the bullet on that painful online experience.

Shack. Your core AFSC will be used for any unofficial comparison within the board and for the AFSC statistics in the RAW data.

Helpful. Thanks!

While we are on the topic, and getting some good mentorship on here....I'm writing my 1BPZ PRF. I'm headed to IDE next summer....what's an appropriate push line for the PRF when you're heading to IDE? "En route to IDE in-res....blah blah blah"? Cheers.