BashiChuni

The talking point has been disseminated

Where was the state of the union Biden? it’s clear something is different between the two performances.

wow. that was a disaster from biden. but i think the democrat elite wanted that. it's too obvious that he was that bad. look for biden to get "replaced".

I am unwilling to fight WWIII for Ukraine. Simple as that.

yes. no luck needed. ukraine isn't nato. good luck to them. i'd start negotiating if i were them.

and you think that is realistic? russia giving up crimea? good luck with that

no we can't skip that part. what is winning to you? do you think ukraine (at a 10:1 manpower/equipment disadvantage) can defeat Russia and push them out? i don't. the average age of a front line ukranian soldier is 43! there has been no evidence on the battlefield. so what's your win look like? i have respect and admiration for ukraine fighting for their country. i'd do the same thing. but from my perspective as an American, we have nothing to gain entering this conflict. ukraine is not a north-atlantic treaty country. should we intervene in every conflict across the globe? in respect to US interests to russia, i'd say we are harming our interests by "isolating" russia. it's not really isolating, in reality we are pushing them closer to the chinese. multi-polar world is here and continuing to ignore that reality won't change it. was russia a threat to us before ukraine? remember in 2012 when mitt romney was resoundingly mocked by the media/democrats when he said russia was our biggest threat? i do. the side screaming putin is the next hitler certainly didn't fear putin 10 years ago. so what changed? now if you argue that putin will march on paris after ukraine i will simply disagree with you. he has shown no desire or capability to do that. "the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, the cold war has been over for 20 years!" - obama 2012

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/

oh great another agreement to defend a country we have no vital interest in. what could go wrong? those lives are fighting a unwinnable war and are simply pawns in the cold, calculated neo-con game

oh the irony. but please pontificate how ukraine is winning on the battlefield. the path to victory must be just around the corner! soon they will recapture crimea! also you made a very articulate argument about the re-capitalization of the US weapon stock. That's fine, but it's coming at the cost of tens of thousands of Ukranian lives. not worth it IMO.

You are spot on.

triggered

what does victory look like?

More platitudes. serious question for you war hawks… what does victory look like in Ukraine? Can you achieve it? Will you commit the US to do it? because right now we have no strategic end state and are walking down another Vietnam/afghanistan.

the only 14 year old behavior here are you two bozos wanting to escalate into a war where we do not belong, cannot win, and one which has potentially devastating nuclear consequences.

yeah but your cuck friend wasn't escalating a conflict against a nuclear armed nation.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/30/biden-ukraine-weapons-strike-russia-00160731 It’s a stunning shift the administration initially said would escalate the war by more directly involving the U.S. in the fight. But worsening conditions for Ukraine on the battlefield –– namely Russia’s advances and improved position in Kharkiv –– led the president to change his mind.

not a bad idea for compromise. there'd have to be fucking ZERO loopholes on that. maybe people under the poverty level are exempt. but everyone else smashed with 5% flat. the problem is the government's nature is to spend money. the only fix to that is smaller government. first thing i'd do if i were king is slap the DoD with a 20% budget reduction across the board. suddenly ukraine won't seem so important.

does anyone with half a brain really think F-16s are gonna make a dent in this war?

https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/ "Almost all that cash — $690 million — went to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID), the subagency led by Dr. Anthony Fauci, and 260 of its scientists." "Information about this vast private royalty complex is tightly held by NIH" "It’s unclear if any of the Covid vaccine royalties from Pfizer and Moderna, the latter of which settled with NIH by agreeing to pay $400 million, is even included in these new numbers. NIH isn’t saying."

the coverup is always worse than the crime.

stoker here's the problem of your logic...you think throwing more money at DC will solve the problem. wrong. these jokers will happily take more of your tax dollars and light them on fire. maybe these entitlement programs need to die a very painful death. also stop derailing my thread i'm currently torching CH and lawman and you are stealing my spotlight