BashiChuni

Lol does he have thousands of nuclear weapons? ☢️ Did you read the twitter thread I posted that had the US’s leading foreign policy thinkers warning us for decades that we were poking the bear? (Pun intended) provoking nuclear armed states is not in the best interest of US foreign policy.

No

CIA director Bill Burns in 2008: "Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for [Russia]" and "I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests"

I feel like I’m banging my head against the wall. YOU think Ukraine isn’t out to invade Russia. putin/Russia see it different. They see encroachment/encirclement by NATO/western countries. What we see as good (spreading liberal democracy/freedom) is seen as a core national security threat by Russia. Especially when it’s a country they’ve historically had influence over. ESPECIALLY when NATO holds military exercises with Ukraine on Ukrainian territory. “but NATO is defensive ONLY!” Again, that’s how YOU see NATO.

"ahhhhhhh roggggggaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh follow the greens" [sexy female Japanese accent]

multiple things can be right at the same time. the problem is our world is so polarized the nuance is gone. and that's dangerous. hell a sitting US senator just called for the assassination of a world leader.

take notes all those applying "farmboy" political science...FLEA is giving a master class. Prozac i agree with some of what you wrote, but i dont see this as capitulating to putin. I see this as concluding that Ukraine is not worth american troops dying for. and the hitler/putin comparison is totally ridiculous.

he was certainly right and we should have.

THIS. 100% spot on assessment.

Very infantile analysis of Russia. You’re seeing everything from your western perspective

I agree from a western perspective you’re correct. Putin doesn’t think like the west. Some famous person once said know your enemy or something like that.

Not a cop out. It’s geopolitical politics. We thought he was bluffing and he called us on it. Just cause you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s not reality.

Expanding NATO to Russia’s doorstep needs to stop. We cause our own worst problems. if anything their poor military performance demonstrates how they are NOT a threat to Europe

lol glad you're not making decisions.

PREVENT escalation? let me get this straight...you think 2 squadrons of vipers and a b-1 bombing russian forces would "prevent" escalation? jesus dude. putin is acting in the best interest of russia based on how he sees the world. it is what it is. the whole "fighting for ukranian freedom" argument does not justify US involvement in a war. give the ukranians weapons sure, but for fucks sake no direct US involvement.

the united states has zero national security interests in Ukraine. This conflict has seeds going back decades. it's a fight between ukraine and russia. conflicts are tragic. civilians are dying. that does not change the geopolitical calculus for the US. we have zero responsibility to get involved. let europe fight that war if they want. you are speaking as someone who has no background on how we got here and your type of grandiose chest thumping hubris is how America has gotten ourselves into horrible messes.

totally agree flea. nuance is gone in today's environment. to quote a famous painter "you're either with us, or against us" that type of polarization is easily exploitable...by the media, our adversaries, and our politicians. before making emotional arguments for war in Ukraine we need to take a breath, step back, and try to understand the geopolitical events that led us to this point. unfortunately the media has yelled "putin bad!" for years, so people are conditioned to immediately turn off their brain and demand putin be "held accountable". only in this case holding him accountable will start world war III which clearly is not in the national security interests of the united states. if anything getting russia bogged down in another version of Afghanistan for them IS in our best interests as it makes them MUCH weaker. from a moral humanitarian perspective obviously that's not a good thing, but from a geopolitical viewpoint it helps the united states if russia is crippled in ukraine. anytime foxnews and MSNBC are both arguing for the same thing and the obvious is TOO obvious i become skeptical. go to the 28:00 minute mark to hear the conventional wisdom about Ukraine. this really opened my eyes. it's a fantastic academic look at what's going on.

understanding the "why" behind putin's moves is not "signing his praises". he's a bad dude for sure. he is acting rationally in what HE thinks the best interest of Russia are. so many in the media dismiss him as "crazy", but in my opinion he's anything but crazy. he's been warning us and telling us what HIS red lines are and the west hasn't listened. we have zero interest in getting involved in WW3 to "save" ukraine. zero. it's scary to see how many Americans are clamoring for war when they have no idea how this conflict came into be. American foreign policy has been a total disaster since Korea. we need to sit this one out.

Clearly COVID is being pivoted away from. It’s over. Thankfully. Although the deaths are higher this year. But doesn’t feel like it due to media turning down the fear mongering. I bet they’ll try to bring restrictions and masks back in the fall when we get a spike.

i listened to the entire thing. it's very interesting and i'd encourage anyone who wants to actually learn the history of this conflict to give it a listen. knowing your enemy is important. one more youtube video and one more article related to the topic: https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-follows-decades-of-warnings-that-nato-expansion-into-eastern-europe-could-provoke-russia-177999

hopefully the end of his political career. but guys like him who performance cry during congressional hearings tend to never go away

Calm down Adam.

rep kinzinger is a total JOKE looking forward to him being defeated

it was slightly amusing at first, but this troll is getting old

yes they are you should delay submitting your apps for a few more years /s