BashiChuni

the united states has zero national security interests in Ukraine. This conflict has seeds going back decades. it's a fight between ukraine and russia. conflicts are tragic. civilians are dying. that does not change the geopolitical calculus for the US. we have zero responsibility to get involved. let europe fight that war if they want. you are speaking as someone who has no background on how we got here and your type of grandiose chest thumping hubris is how America has gotten ourselves into horrible messes.

totally agree flea. nuance is gone in today's environment. to quote a famous painter "you're either with us, or against us" that type of polarization is easily exploitable...by the media, our adversaries, and our politicians. before making emotional arguments for war in Ukraine we need to take a breath, step back, and try to understand the geopolitical events that led us to this point. unfortunately the media has yelled "putin bad!" for years, so people are conditioned to immediately turn off their brain and demand putin be "held accountable". only in this case holding him accountable will start world war III which clearly is not in the national security interests of the united states. if anything getting russia bogged down in another version of Afghanistan for them IS in our best interests as it makes them MUCH weaker. from a moral humanitarian perspective obviously that's not a good thing, but from a geopolitical viewpoint it helps the united states if russia is crippled in ukraine. anytime foxnews and MSNBC are both arguing for the same thing and the obvious is TOO obvious i become skeptical. go to the 28:00 minute mark to hear the conventional wisdom about Ukraine. this really opened my eyes. it's a fantastic academic look at what's going on.

understanding the "why" behind putin's moves is not "signing his praises". he's a bad dude for sure. he is acting rationally in what HE thinks the best interest of Russia are. so many in the media dismiss him as "crazy", but in my opinion he's anything but crazy. he's been warning us and telling us what HIS red lines are and the west hasn't listened. we have zero interest in getting involved in WW3 to "save" ukraine. zero. it's scary to see how many Americans are clamoring for war when they have no idea how this conflict came into be. American foreign policy has been a total disaster since Korea. we need to sit this one out.

Clearly COVID is being pivoted away from. It’s over. Thankfully. Although the deaths are higher this year. But doesn’t feel like it due to media turning down the fear mongering. I bet they’ll try to bring restrictions and masks back in the fall when we get a spike.

i listened to the entire thing. it's very interesting and i'd encourage anyone who wants to actually learn the history of this conflict to give it a listen. knowing your enemy is important. one more youtube video and one more article related to the topic: https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-follows-decades-of-warnings-that-nato-expansion-into-eastern-europe-could-provoke-russia-177999

hopefully the end of his political career. but guys like him who performance cry during congressional hearings tend to never go away

Calm down Adam.

rep kinzinger is a total JOKE looking forward to him being defeated

it was slightly amusing at first, but this troll is getting old

yes they are you should delay submitting your apps for a few more years /s

so i guess covid's over huh? midterms coming up and a coordinated dropping of mask mandates, vax cards, vax mandates, etc so scientific!

the whole process is a fucking joke. everything about the admin part of the AF/military is a joke.

they need to press MENU the GPS 20.4 is triggering me

No.

Scary hearing talking heads and senators talking about a possible No fly zone over Ukraine

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You tell ‘em Fightin’ Joe!

good thing we have a strong leader in the WH to deter putin!

this is exactly the viewpoint of the globalists. i do not believe we have a vested interest in virtually every country on the globe. we might have to agree to disagree. point taken that global peace and prosperity is a good thing for most humans though.

i understand what you're saying as well, however this "domino theory" seems to have done more harm than good. our own founding fathers warned us to not get involved in European alliances and conflicts. our education system is certainly failing, but this aint it my friend. the globalists who run this country love being involved in over 150+ other countries. i argue that our national security is not enhanced by being in 99% of them.

was the post WW2 pax americana really all that great? korea, vietnam, iran, panama, GW1, bosnia, GWOT etc... seems to me we kept putting our pecker where it didn't belong. not too many great things to show from any of those places. maybe we need to sit some out

You know exactly what it says. So do I. But that’s the state of who is in the WH I’m afraid. Everyone on the planet will call the 79 year olds bluff.

I say let Ukraine stand on their own and see what happens. Not our war or our interest.

very good post pawnman! i think most americans are closer in agreement then MSNBC or FOXNEWS tries to portray. i appreciate your thoughtful reply