BashiChuni

good dude does not equal good leader

And bring a few of your hot interns....

.02 from an AFSOC guy i can see it being a good move as well (with caveats) 1. no mission creep. CSAR is CSAR...and will NOT evolve into NTISR...keep them off the evil sync matrix's that i know Tac Airlifter just LOVES! 2. funding for CSAR is not a money pot to be raided for higher AFSOC priorities if those two things hold true then it's good in my mind. +1 to what Danger41 said about probably easier for AFSOC CSAR to get past the bureaucracy to actually launch...for those of you in the proverbial "know" i'd refer you to the 2016 incident in OIR for a case study. #JointPartners

maybe they are "isolated personnel" at WIC my good sir, but identifying them as "isolated" does not help us fight "jointly" together. and you should never assume their "isolation"...it shows your (dare i say) ignorance please refrain from such assumptive language and use "joint partners"

um...excuse me gentlemen can we not use "customers"? please use "joint partners" from now on. thank you.

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Everything old is new again

1 fighter per drop? Lol. Get fucked big blue. Get fucked. But please bitch more about your fighter pilot shortage

Goldfein should fire this guy on the spot for insubordination. Only that type of drastic action will move the needle.

fascinating to see each communities take on this...to me this is a good change, but i can see how AMC would abuse it

PERSCO problems... in process into Kuwait with PERSCO..."sir can i see if you have your dog tags?" "uh why?" "just checking" (airman first class then takes a selfie behind the desk w/ her MSGT i shit you not) They have us fill out 69 lines of useless in-processing shit...we get to new base in country for deployment. 4 weeks at new base PERSCO..."uh who are all of you guys?" "uh wat?" "yeah who are you and why are you here? why haven't you in-processed with us?" Wasnt fcking Kuwait suppose to do that? and if they weren't why the fuck did we waste two hours going thru their line? UFB. finance related b/c OBVIOUSLY our combat tax incentives haven't started. will be a mess AGAIN to battle finance for our $$$ when it comes DTS time. f me

i'm all for naming/shaming d-bags...but trying to get a guy fired from a civilian job seems like bad bull to me

i enjoy duck posts that are insightful, thoughtful, and smart. keep posting. if being forced to make O-4 is the worst that happens to you then you're a very blessed man. perspective i guess. anyways cheers to you bro i wish you nothing but the best. break break back on topic...will this 100% to major policy start to chip away at the mindless number of award packages the collective "we" has to accomplish? 15 line, 30 line, etc etc etc...so and so of the qtr/year blah blah blah?

bro I get it trust me. but good lord every post is doom and gloom. enjoy life a little baaaaBEEEEEEEEE! its fine to be cynical, but when every post is dripping w/ negativity ... anyways see you in the airlines. ps the AF will never live up to their end of the bargin. #ProTip

Lol ok drama queen its not a "10 year sentence" yes im getting out as many others but I've had a great time. Maybe you can keep your overly cynical dramatic opinions to yourself a little more around here.

I hope so!

only thing thatll save the AF is a bear economy for a few years...which historically will happen within the next 5-10 years

thanks for the feedback gents to throw a new wrinkle into the conversation my buddy said he didn't get the ADSC waived until he completed PIT, then had the form-8 and submitted an email to AFPC highlighting note B. interesting.

so I am 80/20 getting out. I don't want to decline the assignment because I want the assignment. I'd like a break from the deploying lifestyle... I also don't think I can 7 day opt since im 3 years and 2 months out from my 10 year ADSC

negative. january 2018 departure for PIT with RNLTD to UPT base june 2018 i think im going to try your advice in my next email. look im super stoked going to UPT it just feels like big blue is trying to squeeze every little drop out of us

no it does not say that

that's the issue yes. i only flew it as a student. i'm trying to reconcile how afpc approves ADSC waivers and denies others...both in the exact same situation. when my ADSC is up i'll have given the AF 10 solid flying years...and they're trying to fuck me over with 6 extra months. thanks air force.

alright gents i've read a few pages of this thread...same as some other posters i'm coming from a MWS going to T-38 PIT...AFPC trying to make me sign the 3 year ADSC. I've read the applicable note B posted a few pages back and it seems clear that they can't extend me past 10 years...but im also familiar w/ note c and that seems clear that they can. i send AFPC an email on it and here was their reply: "Capt, Our records do not indicate that you have a basic qualification in the T-38 which is for the course you are attending. If you could please provide your Form 8 that shows your basic qualification so we can close your case. If you do not have the basic qualification then per AFI 36-21071 Note 1C. Rated officers who crossflow/retrain into another rated career field (e.g., an air battle manager who crossflows/retrains as a navigator or manned or unmanned pilot), crossflow/retrain to a different weapons system (basic qualification) or aircraft airframe will incur the full ADSC for that training even if that ADSC extends beyond the officer’s 6th or 10th year of rated service. v/r AFPC ADSC Policy" one of my buddies who went to PIT recently had AFPC remove the 3 year ADSC from his records after sending the exact same email i sent. from the other replies in this thread it seems AFPC approves some and disapproves others. standard. but god damnit note 1b fucking applies. i'm not going to give up. *reattack* how the fuck can they pick and choose which provisions they're going to follow? im amazed they haven't rewritten the reg seeing as how guys on this thread have been talking about the same issue for YEARS any thoughts?

Confirm wherever you stay you just need to provide a receipt to get finance to reimburse?

There's no $$$ figure the AF could realistically pay to keep me around past ADSC