JustHangingOut

Congrats! great to see another rotor head get through the gauntlet! I start this fall. If you are headed to Columbus, let's get together for a beer.

are you wanting to stay on or off base? If you want to stay on base...avoid allen heights...

the in between time...every unit operates differently. Idealy they will try to get class dates that all line up, but if NGB doesnt have that option available, you won't get it and will likely be sent back to your home unit. Whether your unit keeps you on orders during the time in between is up to them, but i would assume it would not be likely. My IFT and UPT dates were scheduled at the time, but were slotted months apart to where i would not be on continuous orders the whole time. Now i do not have to go to IFT so it's no big deal. I'm sorry i cant give a more definitive answer as ever situation is a bit different and what drug deals your unit is able to work with NGB to get everything to line up back to back. From what i have seen on the forums here, from UPT on, everything tends to be back to back, but everything prior is a crap shoot.

I would say 6-7 months for school once you are gained in the unit. I was gained in late december, received IFT dates in Feb for a May date and UPT dates for October. Other guys in the pipeline with my squadron have closer timelines where they are all back to back. Make sure you also check with the security manager that they have started your TS paperwork as well or NGB wont let you swear in until your investigation is open (not complete or even started...but status of "open"). That was a big head ache for me towards the end that added some time to the whole process.

do you have any ADSO remaining from mother rucker, or any track school?

@FDNYOldGuy can help with the reserve timeline. He had a fairly quick turn around and is in OTS currently last I spoke to him. What hurdles are you hitting with your 368?

thanks for the info. There are ways for me to be useful from my prior service but those options are certainly limited.

thanks man. I am scheduled for Columbus.

02 Dec 2017: Interview 03 Dec 2017: Hired 06 May 2018: DD Form 368 signed by State J1 in April and submitted to NGB 24 July 2018: Transfer Packet kicked back from NGB for wording and resubmitted 06-07 Aug 2018: Flight Physical Completed 10-14 Sep 2018: Flight Physical Results returned week of I was also informed that NGB changed their accessions process to require ETPs to be completed and approved before swearing in.....fortunately I already had my flight physical done so I could push that up as soon as the policy dropped. Transfer packet at NGB paused New policy came with change in ETP checklist and shortened timeline (approx 30 days) 21 Sep 2018: ETP pushed up 25 Oct 2018: Age Waiver Approved at NGB (34 day turn around) 19 Nov 2018: I was notified that the squadron needed to initiate a TS Clearance before I could swear in. The unit security manager sent me a link to fill out the SF86 digitally. After that it went up to OPM to begin the investigation process. Once the investigation was "open" and reflected that status is JPAS, the unit could send a specific memo to NGB to let me swear in 14 Dec 2018: TS Investigation opens and memo sent to NGB 17 Dec 2018: NGB sends the temporary Fed Rec that allows me to swear in 28 Dec 2018: Fini Flight in the Blackhawk, and swear in with the my new ANG squadron. Separation orders are cut by the Army Guard to release me 5/6 Jan 2019: First official drill weekend with squadron, gaining process begins, and I begin working on my ARB packet 25 Feb 19: School Dates Received (starting UPT fall 2019 and bypassing IFT) hoping for a shortfall to get a sooner class date...anyone want to trade 😉

To quote Lloyd Christmas...”so you’re telling me there’s a chance!”

Thanks! Getting on orders would put me in a better place financially than my civilian work.

Edited for clarity. Basically I’m asking can I get days or orders outside of the standard drill days to come in and get some work.

...and put on orders if you are already commissioned and waiting for UPT on other than drill status? I’m trying to find regs that say if some one can or cannot be put on temp AGR, or ADOS, or other types of pay status for full time orders or tech work at the unit while waiting for school. (Air Guard context)

Mine has not been sent up yet, but im almost done with the packet. I've been trying to gather records from different offices...you know how it is. The HARM office is who will send it up to the A3 office at NGB

that's better than the 6+ months it used to take. Mine was one of the first ones through when they switched up to the new checklist. It took 34 days.

Am i reading correctly that ARBs for NGB are now down to 2-3 months? Last I heard they took 6 months to complete.

Haha! It’s like clue! It was Col Mustard in the briefing room with a briefing stick...and in your case, you followed it up by rolling up the body in an ornamental rug

yeah your process may be different since I am going through the UPT pipeline.

Refer to my timeline

For sure man. I’m not the first by a long shot. If you ever have questions, feel free to PM me and we can chat offline in a bit more detail.

Yes, Rated officer flying blackhawks

Great post Evil! I have that article up and look forward to the read. A little humility goes a long way in any profession and I agree with you that if the applicant is worth the investment then they are worth the work. Thanks for sharing your insights.

02 Dec 2017: Interview 03 Dec 2017: Hired 06 May 2018: DD Form 368 signed by State J1 in April and submitted to NGB 24 July 2018: Transfer Packet kicked back from NGB for wording and resubmitted 06-07 Aug 2018: Flight Physical Completed 10-14 Sep 2018: Flight Physical Results returned week of I was also informed that NGB changed their accessions process to require ETPs to be completed and approved before swearing in.....fortunately I already had my flight physical done so I could push that up as soon as the policy dropped. Transfer packet at NGB paused New policy came with change in ETP checklist and shortened timeline (approx 30 days) 21 Sep 2018: ETP pushed up 25 Oct 2018: Age Waiver Approved at NGB (34 day turn around) 19 Nov 2018: I was notified that the squadron needed to initiate a TS Clearance before I could swear in. The unit security manager sent me a link to fill out the SF86 digitally. After that it went up to OPM to begin the investigation process. Once the investigation was "open" and reflected that status is JPAS, the unit could send a specific memo to NGB to let me swear in 14 Dec 2018: TS Investigation opens and memo sent to NGB 17 Dec 2018: NGB sends the temporary Fed Rec that allows me to swear in 28 Dec 2018: Fini Flight in the Blackhawk, and swear in with the my new ANG squadron. Separation orders are cut by the Army Guard to release me 5/6 Jan 2019: First official drill weekend with squadron, gaining process begins, and I begin working on my ARB packet More to follow

It’s a pretty painless process. You sit in an office with the reviewer and they go over the paperwork you filled out, ask more details about things you disclosed, ask if you have tattoos or scars, weird fetishes...JK... thing major. Key advice, don’t sweat the small stuff, but don’t lie either. If it’s not worth mentioning, then don’t mention it. I’ve heard people get disqualified for mentioning they had a migraine when they really probably only had a headache. Words mean things in the military. I hope that helped. I’m sure some other guys might have some thoughts on the matter.

yes, that is my exact scenario. Like has already been said, it will require you to get a DD Form 368 (conditional release)....do not mention anything to your CoC until after you have a job lined up.