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Do you know if this was Guard or TFI?

Oh, gotcha. Shows you how ill-informed I am haha. I’ll keep on digging, thank you and best of luck to you guys!

Congrats to all of the recent selectees! How long ago did you guys start this process? I‘ve yet to even get a response from a recruiter so I imagine I have quite a long road ahead of me.

Absolutely apply anyway. Make THEM tell you no, don’t tell yourself.

When I checked this about a month ago it still said 29, so glad you chimed in with this. I agree that’s pretty definitive, thank you!

The most recent one I can find is dated 25 May 2018, and it still says 30 is the limit for UPT. Here’s the source doc: https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a1/publication/afi36-2105/afi36-2105.pdf If there’s a more recent version I’ve yet to find it.

Hope it’s alright if I bump this old thread. I’ve read multiple different comments on here, Facebook groups, Reddit, etc. that the new age policy does NOT apply to civilians. Others say it does and is a blanket policy for everyone, civilians included. Can anyone clarify, or provide any sources or additional information?

Well, here we are two years later and I've finally retaken the TBAS. PCSM went from 71 to 93, same flight hours bracket (~50).

If you mean the TBAS I’m pretty sure there’s not. Thought I read somewhere that a waiver is not possible for an additional retake. If I find a source I’ll post it here.

Nope, I don't think they posted it. Might need to contact the POC and find out.

Looks like Idaho ANG is up on BogiDope.

There really isn’t a standardized process for sending packages as each hiring board is a little different. Normally each unit will specify exactly what they need. Mostly all the same stuff (resume, cover letter, scores, transcripts, flight certificates, etc.) but you’d need to find out for sure before submitting anything. Squadrons will typically have an application guide on the unit website detailing everything that’s needed and in what order. BogiDope will also often provide this information with each job posting on their site in the form of a PDF attachment. Here’s an example. Let me know if you need help!

Surprised to read this. I assume he was prior service?

Ok, let me know what they say.

I've found this article particularly detailed and helpful for what to expect on the TBAS. I recommend giving it a read and viewing the images if you haven't already.

I’d be down, I’m in the DFW area.

Will you guys be accepting any new applications?

Congrats to you! Where did you end up getting selected?

My original pilot score from my first AFOQT attempt was a 48. Based on what I remember from my first take, I agree. I’m definitely going to prepare myself for the retake with as many resources as I can use.

Good to know, thanks for the info!

Thank you for taking the time to write out such an elaborate and well-thought out response. Seeing the options laid out by someone else helps me understand and organize them better in my head. I'm aware of the risks. Thank you for the heads up, I will be well-prepared for the retake. Thank you. Although, it's my PCSM that's a 67, not my total hours. My actual flight time is around 30 hours. I can raise my PCSM to as high as 87 if I miraculously get up to the 201+ bracket, but acquiring that many hours is not on my short-term agenda. I sincerely wish I could. I have genuinely tried to convince myself by switching my mentality many, many times, but I'm afraid I'm just too determined. I will admit, however, this is excellent advice, and I do receive it earnestly. Absolutely. And I have. I've deeply asked and have answered that question to myself dozens of times over the years. I have weighed and considered alternatives, both in the Air Force and in the civilian sector, and again, I just cannot satisfy such a specific lifelong dream through any other means. Despite my stubbornness, I hope you will understand that I graciously appreciate your response and advice. Everything you said is correct, and it's reassuring to know that the options that are available to me are good ones. Thanks again.

This is extremely helpful, thank you. Your numbers identical to mine, I have the exact same pilot score (92) and PCSM (67). Would you mind sharing your speculative PCSM scores in the other hour brackets? I’d like to get an idea for my possible future scores. Thanks again.

That is my plan. I’ve found a number of helpful resources, like the flash cards which will undoubtedly help me go into it better prepared this time. I appreciate your advice

It’s been awhile since I took it, but if my memory serves me correctly, absolutely not. Most of what I remember about my first attempt is that I did very poorly. Of course, no individual TBAS score is provided, so I can only speculate.