FLEA

And that mindset is 100% OK. Nobody owes society a damn thing. In return, society doesn't owe you anything as well.

The point is its very hard to make a moral case based in standard ethical principles to enforce vaccine mandates unless the vaccine is significantly beneficial to the individuals it's being forced on. For some people it's being forced on, it is significantly beneficial. For others, it's not.

I would say your social circle is by far an outlier than and you all should probably take social distancing measures more seriously than lol. Either way, the argument still stands that the risk of myocarditis is about the same in either population sample.

Want to turn topic a bit to focus on something I think is more interesting to national policy and law. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/11/15/unions-seek-bargaining-rights-for-national-guard-members/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-stands-vaccine-mandate-national-161801995.ht COVID-19 has forced some interest conversations about the role of the national guard in the US Total Force, and the lawful authority of the DoD to place mandates on members who are not on federal status. In Oklahoma, the state secretary of the guard was presumably fired over enforcing Secretary Austin's order to vaccinate all guard troops. He was replaced and subsequently the OK governor declared he is the lawful commander and chief of the OK national guard when they are not on federal status, and he will not enforce their vaccine mandate unless they are federally activated. In the second scenario, CT national guard members are sueing for the right to unionize when not in federal status. Their lawyer cleverly points out existing legislation against the unionization of the military only applies (apparently) when troops are title 32 status. Hence, members of the CT National Guard were unlawfully denied collective bargaining rights guaranteed to other CT state employees in regards to COVID-19 mandates. Now if you think this is bizarre, I would have too. Until I went to work for NATO and realized THE MAJORITY of western militaries are actually unionized. We are the odd one out. Definitely not advocating we model our defense off of Europe, but bros, you are getting screwed on representation, 😂.

Woah are we actually debating this again? Baseops crashed for 48 hours and I thought we all went through a day where we felt lost and helpless, followed by another day where we reconnected with our families and remembered there was a life outside of BO.net and arguing on the internet. I've posted this before but 19andMe has done one of the leading calculators for estimating cumulated risk of contracting COVID-19 based on a meta analysis of dozens of studies followed by a pretty impressive mathematical model. I ran the model for a 26 year old slightly healthier than average male in my zip code, unvaccinated, but taking basic social distance precautions based on the current local measures we had in place. This represents the average US Armed Forces enlisted service member. Since the calculator only predicts risk in a 24 hour window, I had to accumulate that risk over a period of 1,095 event occurences to build a 3 year risk model. https://19andme.covid19.mathematica.org/ To your other point, I do not believe the occurrence rate will approach 100% as that is not what historically happens with viruses. There is a mathematical model that explains the waves and valleys of virus transmission and even during some of the most infectious pandemics in human history, the vast majority went without ever being exposed. Edit: rereading your post your method is flawed for several reasons. 1.) If the CDC estimate is really so far under you would then need to extrapolate that reduced risk to your remaining risk because people who are not reporting COVID-19 are not doing so because they do not have symptoms, hence, no problems. 2.) I don't think your risk is correct. If we just estimate 44% is ~1/2, bro, I've only known of like 6 people with COVID the whole pandemic. That's my whole base population since anytime there is a positive case here we shut down literally half the base and it's rather obvious. Do you really know that many people dropping off left and right that this passed your common sense test?

Actually the risk is exactly the same, 76 million vs 77 million. You forgot to multiply 450 time .17 to account for the fact that you have less than a 1/5 chance of actually getting COVID over a 3 year period.

The 552 has such a historic reputation for being a toxic command climate. Ive never heard anyone speak highly about the 552 or Tinker AFB in 14 years.

No, it probably has more to do with the Wing Commanders comments that inferred his subordinates didn't even understand what a toxic command climate was. He defended the Gp/CC pretty heavily early on. In reality, he probably should have just kept his mouth shut and said "I'm going to have an investigation look into this and we'll see what comes of it." Instead he perpetuated this idea that there is a "good ol boys club" that defends the senior echelons of leadership and doesn't hold them accountable by downplaying their transgressions.

I don't think the investigation completed until late last week. In the conclussions the investigation substantiated two instances tied to toxic command climate and undermining a culture of flight safety. Some interesting rumors though that Wg/CC might be next for not acting aggressively enough to fix the mess. (Perhaps that's what you meant)

This story is fucking amazing.

Largely because we're still flying with avionics manufactured in the cold war probably.

From what I've heard, they had 12 hours with 8 hours opportunity to sleep. That's totally legal.

Well, leadership recently ordered a crew at Tinker to fly a mission that by the book was legal but in reality was stupidly non-sensible. To me that's the role of the AC. If you're go/no-go factors as an AC are simply whether or not its legal by the book to take off or land, than we are paying you too much. Fuck the Nav can look in a book and tell you if you have the mins or not. I would say the guy at the TMO desk could do it but I don't think they've ever cracked and AFI in their life so I won't go there. Anyway, the AC is there when by all accounts you should be allowed to do something, but for whatever extenuating circumstances or factors that guidance doesnt capture, its just a really stupid idea.

Technique I heard at RTAG: A lot of them were using DoD Skills bridge to get employed at an FBO as a flight school instructor for 6 months. They were using this to pad some fixed wing time and hours. This may be harder with the new skills bridge rules but something to look into.

Met several at RTAG, which was actually started as an event to advocate for Rotary to Airlines.

So the guy working for the guy the Dems hired to prove Trump was (allegedly) colluding with Russians was (allegedly) colluding with Russians.... Fuck.

Yeah I agree, something stinks here. There was one person who was given authority to make PID. The investigation needs to square in on that person and the comm chain from the PED to that person. You can't just say we fucked up but everything worked the way it was supposed to.

At my base both need to quarantine for exposures or deployments to some locales. Makes no difference if you're vaxed or not. Both also have to COVID test before deploying or redeploying regardless of vax status. Vax status has literally had no bearing on our doing anything.

I was one of the first in the USAF to get the vaccine. I primarily got it because I'm OCONUS and was hoping it would open up travel again. (Which it hasn't as much as I would have liked). Anyway, I am generally pro-vaccine, but could personally care less if other people get it. There decision to get or not get a vaccine has absolutely zero impact on my life or future. None what-so-ever. Zilch. Remember, more than 10X more AD personnel committed suicide last year than died of COVID. That is an eyebrow raise to me considering we still continue to downplay mental health importance in the DoD. But I guess we don't have a political party jamming suicide problems down our throat to make us care.

There is a growing movement to change DOPMA though. If the AF is smart they would start forming a coalition with the other services to approach congress. Looser language could be in effect in a year with an NDAA provision.

https://afghan-report.com/sigar/sigar-quarterly-report-oct-2021/ Really good executive summary of the most recent SIGAR report which is the first one to be given to congress since the collapse. Also noteworthy is several former officials from SIGAR have gone public that concerns about Afghan readiness and capability were forwarded to DoD and DoS for years but we're ignored.

I completed a sequence and was still required to get it before each subsequent deployment. That was the same for everyone at my base/squadron. I honestly don't know how the DoD rationalized that but they said there was data that continuing boosters gave you stronger immunity. Kind of makes me feel like there isn't actually a sequence at all and you just need it every 6 months.

It was pretty clear it was a transactional marriage. Totally their business and I honestly don't care, just like I don't care about fraternization or adultery in the military. Why the American public has such an incredible fascination with who people are banging has always been beyond me.

You're right. Certainly don't have to worry about your kid's listening to Biden's sex scandals when the media covers it up. Or are we just not going to talk about Tara Reade?

It's as small as the detail that FB will take your geolocation, and if it sees you near a friend who has a similar geolocation it will stop showing you their feed. How many times did you see a picture from a buddy a day late and said "if I knew you were there I would have met up with you!?!" Well FB knows because it wants to keep you from meeting up. If you meet that friend for coffee you will probably put your phone down and be more social. If the phone goes down, you aren't looking at FB. So it does every it can go influence your social behavior to keep you apart. It's bizarrely coercive in that respect.