SFG

😂 They got you.

You are all getting way, way off track. The purpose of the AF test, per it’s creator, is to measure Vo2 Max, which also according to him is the best indicator of health and future healthcare costs. That should answer most questions. Continue.

And how much did you have to contribute for Delta Airlines to give you $38,000 on top of your $130,000-$180,000 second-year pay and 10+ days off a month?

I guess desperate times call for... increasing UPT throughput to 1500+ and funding diversity measures to access untapped recruiting pools. Don’t worry folks. Pilot shortage will be solved by 2023. You are expendable once again. Now move along.

Yeah. It’s insulting 😂. Their next shortage will be at 20+ YAS as guys who stayed expecting the AF to step up get out as soon as they can to join the club. 60k ends the shortage today. Guaranteed. But I guess they don’t have a problem anymore since they've stopped requesting a higher AvB.

Doctors aren’t trained to do waists measurements 😂 If they gave them that additional duty, they’d have to raise their bonus to maintain retention.

Gist: 1. He thinks he’s the god of health and fitness. 2. The test is a health-risk indicator not an overall fitness or performance indicator. 3. Running and BMI are all you need to predict healthcare costs. 4. Hopes to implement random testing modeled after random drug testing to incentivize year-round health. 5. Occupational tests are for fitness and performance testing.

"The FY20 PB continues the increased maximum payout of $35,000 authorized in the FY17 NDAA."

Can always cross-train to supreme allied AOC commander... or whatever that new AFSC is.

Yeah. So like I said. FAOs who went to NPS before they got credit will show school complete on their OPB (because they did it through DL) and show NPS in their records. What will FAOs who went to NPS after this new credit show? School complete on their OPB and NPS in their records. Same, same. Also, none will show IDE...SELECT, because it is Deliberate Development credit given after completion, not IDE In-Res. As far as competitiveness... Have these guys done as much or more than in-res folks? Probably. But getting kudos for school attendance isn't about the quality of the experience, education, or training, it's about the quality-cut that got you there. For better or worse. The FAOs that get promoted are the ones who would have gotten promoted anyway before going FAO or the ones who get selected for the competitive, high-vis FAO positions. I don't see the new credit having a huge effect. Sorry. The real question is what happens to folks like this when the AF divides the LAF into competitive categories.

No impact. School method is masked at board. Before, board saw FAO with NPS in training records and school complete. Now, board will see FAO with NPS in training records and school complete. Won't boost FAO promotion rate. The AF beginning to value the institutional requirements those guys fill and what they bring to the table, might.

Hope is the AF’s new retention tool.

about 545 IDE slots each year. about 220 will go to DAs. about 60 additional slots will be reserved for third looks (not DAs). Note this also happened in 2018. If you weren’t going to be the Wg/CC’s #1 before you won’t be his DA now. This changes nothing except gives Wg/CCs more control and confidence that their guy will go, which believe it or not did not always happen before.

Compete against the #1 guy for 10 slots or don’t compete against him for 9 slots. Tomato tomato.

The AF is not going to end their shortage by 2023 like they are planning. Watched the 12 March hearing of the House Armed Services Committee, Subcommittee on Military Personnel, and Congress ate up the testimony of the guy that said bigger bonuses won’t help (Mr. Todd Harrison, CSIS). He said that he thinks paying military members more would cheapen their service. The subcommittee loved it. One congresswoman even piggy-backed to say that in her 20 years in the service she never heard any of her peers complain about pay. Mr. Harrison also cherry-picked some stats to argue that increasing the bonus had zero affect on retention. Congress ooh’ed and ah’ed. “Wow! That’s eye-opening!” His recommendation? More or less, “We shouldn’t do anything until we do more surveys to find out why troops are really leaving and mine that data.” To the credit of the representative from RAND, she vigorously argued that the data we already have showed bonuses do work, but it is simply not high enough to have the desired effect. She was largely dismissed.

Don’t they all sound good to people who don’t know how to read them...?

The other community being doctors... but then they get bonuses commensurate with their training and the outside market. Seems to work for them. So weird.

My friend's Excel worksheet still says he needs $72k/year to make it worth it for him monetarily... but I think $55k would probably do it for him given he just got the assignment he wanted.

and we can call it AFPAK Hands! But in all seriousness, with the DOPMA flexibility from congress this FY your vision is at least possible.

Yep. Probably. The pendulum swings yet again.

I think he’s actually referring to the mock board for competitive categories, i.e. aviators only competing against aviators for promotion.

Anyone calling “troll” yet? Someone with these questions hasn’t passed high school history or read a newspaper in the past 10 years. An electronic subscription would do the trick too. Bottom line is if you want to be at the leading edge of global events and tell stories of the 6 to 9 wars you fought in with some of the most intelligent and motivated combat aviators in the world, you join the AF. If you want stories about your ports of call you join the Navy. If you want stories about your two year-long deployments to the same country you join the Army. If you want stories like the Army, but wetter and dirtier, join the Marines. It’s not rocket science, it’s what we do.

Or, which happened to I, back in the day I had plans outside the organization, was leaving in 3 months, and a new Sq/CC, Gp/CC, and Wg/CC had just arrived. Despite doing some of the best work I’d ever done and working my tail off to keep things afloat for the new CC, my ranking went down and I lost a strong push I’d had the previous year. Sq/CC’s explanation? “You don’t need it. You’re heading down a different path now.” Referring to my school selection and PCS out of his org. Reiterated by Wg Execs. On top of that, we had a terrible new control freak Chief Exec who was the perfect combo of, “You shouldn’t write your own OPR,” and, “I’ve never written an OPR before.” So we had that expert writing my OPR and PRF for the CC and heismaning all my efforts to help him. So just pointing out that 💩 happens. ✈️

Interesting. Is that the only way they'll let an over 20 guy in? Asking for a friend.

How did you not receive an active duty retirement...?