LiquidSky

Well his machine gun was found... Do y'all see any realistic way in which he could have prevented this specific incident as a commander?

Fairly certain that last C17 was JB Lewis-McChord not Charleston.

It was.

You mean while George flies right?

GMT +9 in Kadena. It's early Monday morning. Edit: Disregard. Low SA. Assumed it happened today as it wasn't reported until now.

XL 18-10 T1 KC-135 Souix City Iowa (guard/reserve) Kc-135 Nebraska (guard/reserve) KC-10 Travis (guard/reserve) C-12 yokota KC-135 Kadena T-1 FAIP KC-135 Mildenhall C-17 McGuire C-17 Travis C-21 Ramstein T38 F-16 South Dakota (guard/reserve) A-10 DM Nigeria - TBD T-6 FAIP AC-130 Cannon F-16 TBD C-130 Ramstein C-130 Dyess F-22 Tyndall

XL 18-09 T-38 F-16 Tucson ANG F-16 TBD x2 F-15E Seymour Johnson T-38 Langley T-38 FAIP U-28 Hurlburt C-17 Lewis McChord RC-135 Offutt T-1 MC-130 Cannon C-130 Peoria ANG C-130 Yokota C-130 Dyess C-17 Hickman C-17 Dover C-5 Westover ARB C-5 Dover MC-12 Will Rogers World ANG RC-135 Offutt KC-135 Goldwater ANG x2 KC-135 March KC-135 Seymour Johnson KC-10 Travis

XL 18-08 T-1 C21 Ramstein C5 Dover KC135 March x2 C17 Stewart ANG KC10 McGuire KC135 Mildenhall AC130 Hurlburt T6 FAIP KC135 Guard T38 Saudi fighter T38 FAIP x3 F16 tbd x2 F22 Tyndall A10 DM

That happened. Two classes 18-13 and 18-14 tracked without some studs finishing formation or in some cases even starting it.

XL 18-06 T-38 F-16 x2 B-2 E-3 F-15E T-38 FAIP F-22 T-1 T-1 FAIP AC-130 KC-135 x5 KC-10 x2 C-17 x2 Standard Disclaimer: Drinking probably missed one or two.

Last I heard was they still expect to be grounded for a bit, but classes will track anyway (for now) despite not completing the full T6 syllabus. Them starting backup Monday is new news to me.

2015 (381) and 2016 (345) rotc numbers for comparison.

By burying their heads in the sand and pretending there isn't a problem? Don't have to fix what you don't admit is broken. You already have some LTs from rotc waiting for nearly a year to enter active duty or spending a ridiculous amount of time on casual status. We have some of the highest paid gate guards, bus drivers, marshalers that can't marshal, etc. as a result of casual. I'm a little more concerned that the average pcsm of a pilot select Cadet is down 14 points, GPA down 0.13, Pfa by 1.5. CSOs are down by similar numbers as well. Do y'all think that there will be a noticeable difference in quality of the average stud? Or a higher washout rate as a result? Obviously these #s aren't the best metric in the world to predict flying ability but I would expect to see some future correlation.

XL 18-05 T-38s Fighter Iraq C-130 A-10 x2 F-16 x2 E/A-18 E-3 T-1s C-17 x2 HC-130 KC-135 x3 C-5 T-1 FAIP T-6 FAIP C-130 Missed one or two as usual.

XL 18-12 Track 9x T-38 (2 International) 10x T1 1x TH-1

Didn't write any of drop down but from memory for XL 18-04, T-38 E/A-18 F-15C A-10 T-6 C-130 T-1 T-6 LC-130 KC-10 x 4 KC-135 AC-130 C-17 x2+ MQ-9 (Guard) C-130 x2+

XL 18-11 Track T-38: 8 (2 International) T-1: 13 UH-1: 1

Interesting, what is the standard O2 delivery percentages? Is it auto-100% with weight on wheels then variable in flight based on cabin/aircraft altitude? Because pretty much of the IPs (and some studs) actually fully wear their mask on the ground. Aside from the required checks I always see it hanging when they taxi by. I would assume that in the hammerhead or holding short they put it on. Again for it being primarily IPs my two thoughts are it's either a backseat issue (studs normally in the front except instrument rides) or they just have more SA.

Doesn't the O2 bottle deliver 100% O2 though? So if it truly were hyperoxia that would be exactly the wrong thing to do vs. say descend and drop the mask. If they already have a new boldface directing crews to the O2 bottle I would assume that they ruled out hyperoxia and it's either foreign contaminants in the OBOGS, some form of CO/CO2 poisoning, or the OBOGS is malfunctioning and not supplying sufficient O2 quantities leading to hypoxia.

That's some scary shit. I don't know what they're doing differently there but I wouldn't want to be flying their tails. Have they all been rear cockpit? I know all but one were IPs... Or maybe the studs just have low SA and don't even notice the difference in the front.

At Vance?

To make sure I'm tracking, are you're saying that the bar to starting upt needs to be set higher than a college degree and 90 days at ots? Or that it's right where it belongs and in testing out the E program we're lowering the current bar too far? Control is an interesting thought, but I would be shocked if they're thinking that many moves ahead. My money is on this being yet another poorly attempted cost saving bandaid that is ignoring the root cause of both pilot production and retention rates.

There is no way a current upt stud out of phase 2 could go directly to the B course. Unless they're a prior atp or what have you. They can barely read an approach plate much less fly a multi leg mission. They're used to a very responsive and forgiving plane that it's easy to get back from mistakes in. And if it's into Fighters they've got less than 20 hours of formation flying under their belt before being shipped to iff. There is something to be said for time in the seat and I don't think there is anyway that you can effectively shorten it to 6 months in the Texan without severely handicapping the end product.

Why not just send them to ots first then like I currently done with the few prior e that do get picked up? Especially in reserve units and such. And how does this in anyway fix or alleviate the shortage of pilots as their is no additional throughput unless a new base opens for upt or incentive/way/method to get those people to extend beyond 6/10/etc years?

Of course they get the cush deal being out of Austin. On a serious note if retention is an issue for officers, why would an enlisted getting paid pittance in comparison with a shorter commitment not jump ship to the airlines immediately? If the idea is to show non college grads are capable of flying the answer is, yes of course they are. Flying isn't something black magic skill that you learn by going to a college or through rotc/ots/academy. The odds of success in a tough pipeline, however, are increased by a degree in my opinion because you're more likely to have the study skills, work ethic, etc. you develop through those processes. More importantly, when you're the aircraft commander you better be an officer (or warrant). Can you imagine how much flak we would take if 20 yearold airman snuffy crashed and killed a civilian in the process? If you send them to ots before/after, make them a warrant officer, etc. I think it could work. But even then why take the risk and not do it how it is now? Ots first then upt. This is another shitty bandaid to the problem. They have their fingers in their ears shouting "lala lala I can't hear you lalalalala" while the entire community is saying here is how you can make me stay. They're not willing to make any changes to those areas such as salaries, job locations, time home with family, etc. you, the mission comes first not the people. I know we'll make the enlisted do it for less pay! Solved the budget and manning issue at once! Because a ssgt pilot is basically the same as the majors we're desperately hurting for.