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If it’s not already there. What the hell is this

Commercial airliners have reached a safety margin of about 1 accident per million flights. Let’s assume somehow these aliens have not figured out how to improve safety beyond that rate despite developing faster than light travel or interdimensional travel. David Grusch said 5 have crashed in the past 100 years, which would mean there have to have been at least 50000 UFO sorties. Yet with billions of cell phones with ever increasing quality all we get is the same grainy bs. And they only seem to be interested in Americans for some reason. Absolute clown show but hey at least congress is working together

You should be proud brother it’s not an insult, totally normal hiding terabytes of gay porn on your computer while going out of your way to hurl bullshit against gay people online. I’ll double it and throw 200 down

Have had a chalazion for a few months now, tried most things. How long of a DNIF should I expect if I go the steroid shot or surgical route? Doesn't affect my vision but I definitely want it removed

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/12/22/covid-omicron-variant-ihme-models-predict-140-m-new-infections-winter/8967421002/ "Researchers found the infection-hospitalization rate of omicron is about 90% to 96% lower than delta, and the infection-fatality rate is about 97% to 99% lower. In the past, we roughly thought that COVID was 10 times worse than flu and now we have a variant that is probably at least 10 times less severe,” Murray said. So, omicron will probably … be less severe than flu but much more transmissible.” Lol the left is shitting on the CDC now, still think they're right. I'm team covid parties now I guess. This variant is basically a super spreader cold now and vaccines are widely available. I'm boosted and I'm pretty sure I have it. Everyone popped where I'm at.

I agree and don't think the line is there, just wanted to give an example of one where mandates would clearly not make any sense since you said nobody had ever given one.

Hospitalization/death rate with no countermeasures less than or equal to the flu rate is an clear line you could point to. Suspect next variant will be there already.

I think it's a generous interpretation of the word 'religious' when I think what you really mean here is ideology. Everyone has an ideology, not everyone follows an organized theistic doctrine, which is what I think most people would agree religion is.

I'm curious: if you're offered the Novavax vaccine, which is a traditional protein vaccine (no mRNA) with no use of fetal tissue at any stage of development or testing, will you take it?

You're assuming there is no long term risk for having COVID either, which we also don't know. What evidence so you have to suggest one has a higher long term risk than the other?

In before the goalpost shift to religious exemption argument

Just read the Israeli study, convincing enough to me that natural immunity should be treated similarly to vaccination if you have the antibodies. If the antibodies were permanent (which they are not) I would support an exemption for mandatory vaccination in the military if you have natural immunity. Though as this transitions to an endemic there will likely be an annual vax requirement similar to the flu.

There are still significant differences that affect my opinion on it but I'll accept the extension just for the sake of not derailing the thread

You're reducing my argument to something I don't agree with. I specified exponential and hospital overloading for a reason, none of those things do that. Not to mention even if they did they don't have a readily available cure/vax/etc you could take. I don't want anyone to die of COVID, and certainly not a policy I would want to happen. This is just a compromise I am willing to accept for the libertarians who want no public health mandates.

Same argument I'll repeat. Those things affect an individual, and don't spread exponentially to others overloading the health system.

It's definitely not, that's why I said "absent any exceptions"

I wouldn't say it's more difficult, just less accurate. A test confirming natural immunity would only be 66% accurate or less since a third of cases don't produce antibodies, whereas with a vaccine it's guaranteed.

Tbh I'm privy to this argument as a compromise. I'd be in favor of eliminating all public health mandates as long as all unvaccinated were denied medical services (absent any exceptions) relating to COVID. It's against the spirit of the health profession though so it would never happen.

That is the purpose for the individual but not for the public; again from a public health standpoint cases matter as well because the r0 is 5-9 people so every case is potentially more hospitalizations or deaths. Total cases is directly correlated with hospitalizations and deaths.

No lol quite the opposite. All the dumb hot chicks who believe in astrology are nurses now.

They can still get COVID again given sufficient time, but even if that wasn't true there is no way of knowing who has natural immunity and who doesn't in a practical enough matter to prevent the deaths public health policies are trying to prevent. In other words, even if you as an individual have natural immunity, that fact is irrelevant when considering public health policies (like mandatory vaccination). Hope that is clear enough. Also, here's a study showing a third of COVID cases don't produce protective antibodies, so even if we had something like antibody cards you could still pose a health risk to others. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/9/21-1042_article

False equivalence, none of the things you listed can affect the health of anyone but yourself.

If you went to a large public high school you would know the answer to this

4 years of "CNN is fake news" and people still argue there's a huge perception gap with the public that doesn't exist.

I never said Trump admin doesn't get credit for vaccine rollout, Afghan policy, and stimulus bill. I don't see what's wrong with saying it's a plus the current admin is continuing to accomplish these and also get credit for what they've done so far. Why? I wasn't and can elaborate if you want to actually discuss without insulting and going off on a tangent about the media. Definitely not. When did I say that? Not sure why many of you here are jittery to attack an argument I'm not making because I'm not in your ideological tribe. Probably easier to admit Presidents don't have the power to affect the economy that much (and shouldn't), but sure if you want to make that argument and be consistent.