CharlieHotel47

Were you a flier or rated guy in the navy? A- get hired by unit, have a valid DD368 B- hope you have a shit hot recruiter that can get you gain in a reasonable amount of time. C- slots were cut for FY20. If your lucky after accomplishing A & B, (in 4-6 months maybe) tag another 6 months until you can get dates. If luck is really on your side, your actual arrival at UPT dates will not be far from notification of school dates. hope that helps. Cheers

https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/23/why-retired-military-officers-need-to-shut-up-about-politics/?fbclid=IwAR2W14sK-4DU-9aScaoUsH8YvNTYoWS2iIRBLNfu7azrE9TKYfzgJoKNFRU The armed forces should remain APOLITICAL and the most trusted government institution by the public. Sadly, the ole army colonel who is now a hero for the left, is doing the opposite. Either declare a candidacy and run for office, or retire... once he is all used up by the left, I am sure he will get a book deal on how wearing the uniform gave him some high moral ground on public policy. Stop the politicization of the military! Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Booze! Can’t go wrong with booze. Be sure to put your name in.

If your ETP was approved and your just waiting on board results, chances are you got picked up. Hopefully for pilot and not your least desirables paths Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Let the chief pilot say no to you... and even after saying No, if your persistent, perhaps they might consider you. Don’t listen to the recruiter. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Are you AD Army wanting you go AD Air Force? How old are you? Q1- It’s absolutely a possibility. As long as you don’t have anything that will prevent the army from releasing you like an ADSO. Q2-As far as how convoluted things might get? It all varies on what route you are trying to take AD, AFRC, Ang. Whichever path you might choose, you will have to go thru a ARB process. The Air Force will take their sweet time validating your army aviation training. It sucks. It takes very long but at the end, most bros will get credit for some army stuff (flying hrs and flight pay initiation date). Q3 I’m not too sure about the training pipeline. You won’t have to go thru UPT but will have to attend the air forces 60 course in addition to a couple of PR courses. Lastly, check the IST website again. I remember last time I was lurking around on it there something about the Inter service transfer excluding pilot positions. I didn’t go AD, but did looked at it as a plan C... If things haven’t changed, the only way to jump ship is the apply to the active duty rated/UPT board that happens annually. I have some contacts for the folks that manage the board at Randolph AFB. If your goal is to go AD, give them a call. Ask questions about your specific situation. Hope that helps. Cheers Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

There are plenty of other variables... it’s always something holding up the timeline. Medical, prior service validation stuff, you name it... I would use the two year as a worst case scenario that you’ll need to plan for. Mine was about 15 months. are you AD Air Force?

If you have to do OTS and IFT, you might have to wait until FY21 for UPT. Also, even if your FC1 has been approved by WP, still needs approval from NGB SG... that could take some time... hopefully not to much longer. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

training for year FY20. ANG boards are scheduled and conducted at wing's discretion. With ANG boards, once someone is hired he/she is pushed thru pipeline until a slot is handed down from NGB. It usually takes about 1.5 to 2 years from hired to UPT. On a side note, I talked to a bro that works at Randolph that heard a rumor that both CSO and ABM are in critical demand. High number of folks declined the slot at last at years board. Probably why the total numbers why be up this year (lots of CSOs and ABM, decrease in pilot slots)

The commander has blessed us with his presence

The FY20 production of 1,400 ish pilots have to come from somewhere.... but I have no idea bros Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Cant speak for ARC, but I got word from ANG that big blue cut the # of FY20 allocated slots from 155 to 90 (ANG only). Reserve probably saw a similar cut. Someone had said they were loading up AD ROTC and Academy applicants with pilot slots...

The conditional release Is not part of the checklist so submitting it is not a requirement... however, if you do submit one, they will hold ur package until an extension has been received whenever it expires. Learned my lessoned on that one. So army bros, if your reading this, don’t submit a 368 along with ARB. You also don’t need ARB approval to submit for ETPs. Very important! There is more to the hold up at NGB, but when I hit 6 months waiting point, I went up to Andrews and stumble into A3 to ask some questions. Overall, folks are nice and they get ARB should NOT be a req for UPT Bound dudes. However, it’s a HAF requirement and they can’t do anything about it. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Anybody going to Vance in November?

Dates just dropped for FY20.... I can finally complete my timeline. Army rotor guy to ANG tankers 15 June 2018: Interview 28 Jun 2018: Hired 13 Aug 2018: Flight Physical Completed @ WP 15 Sep 2018: Conditional release from Army approved (for 30 days....) 30 Sep 2018: DD-368 pushed up to NGB. ARB processes started. 30 Oct 2018: ARB package returned (expired DD-368) missing TAG initials and dates. 15 Nov 2018: ARB package resubmitted to NGB with new 90 day conditional release 29 Jan 2019: ARB package returned (expired 90 day conditional release) 10 Feb 2019: ARB package resubmitted to NGB with 90 day extension of conditional release) 21 May 2019: ARB package returned (expired 90 day conditional release) 1 June 2019: ARB package resubmitted back to NGB with 90 day extension 25 July 2019: NGB A3 issues MFR granting ARB approval 8 Aug 2019: State JFH submits appointment package to NGB A1 9 Aug 2019: NGB A1 issues MFR approval for Temporary Appointment for Prior Service Officer 16 Aug 2019: Swear In with unit 24 Sep 2019: UPT school dates for 2 NOV - Vance OK Was hoping for Columbus but beggars cant be choosers. Anybody want to trade? 15 months from hired to UPT. cheers

The slurpy machine was not there about a year ago. Maybe it was just installed. Never tried the espresso machines. Overall, I am happy to retract my statement above. All the other stuff you said were true. The dude walking around handing samples was awesome. In my defense, I've only been fortunate to sample the great cuisine at KAF. Haven't been able to travel the far reaches of the AOR yet. Hopefully soon. cheers

11 yr old bump... Wondering what the best/worst locations for the 135s guys are these days. I am a 47 driver jumping over to the tanker community. Only place I got to experience while in the Army and outside of the US was good ole Kanhadar. @busdriver. FYI, KAF has not changed much since your above description North line chow hall has descent food still, along with everything else you said. I was there '13 and again '17-'18. The experience might have varied from an Army point of view, been close to the flag pole sucked and army leadership loved to fuss at us about PT belts, eyepro, blousing deblousing pants for the flyer types, etc. Nothing like standing in line for chow after an 8hr ash-trash mission, only to get your ass chewed by some FOBed Sgt. Major. about your pants being unbloused. All while there might be a group of Air Force tanker dudes standing next to us wearing ball caps, with pants unbloused, laughing at us. We weren't allowed to wear ball caps. Only person who wore a ball cap in our task force was our SWO (air force dude). On a side note, KAF is now about half the size of what it used to be. Some areas look like zombie land with trash and crap all over the place.

Had 3 interviews and I asked the same question in all before each one. For all three I just had to knock an come in. Maybe the heavy guys I was interviewing w were somewhat relaxed. No one told me to come in, salute and say reporting as order sir/ma’am... is it just an army thing? Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Hurry Up Big Blue / 19th AF...

Anybody else waiting for FY20 UPT dates to drop on the Guard side?

good!

probably the ole gal...

Is Chuck broke or does he really have a case against Airbus? https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/international-business/article-the-wrong-stuff-chuck-yeager-who-broke-sound-barrier-sues-airbus/?fbclid=IwAR1nqqAaKdOr09sYfypdvv-tK7ccHkyFUjl6D3UihDDOSHdtnWeg2CokfzU

your a young dude. Just keep showing up to UTAs and take every opportunity to stop by the squadron to say hello. Put your name out there. Don't be a tool and bring gifts (booze preferably). If all of the pilots are busy, don't be afraid to wonder over to the crew dawgs and wrench turners to chat with them. Their job is just as important. For one of the units that I was rushing for, I brought booze for the squadron bar and chick-fil-a for the crew dawgs. cheers