SurelySerious

The Iran deal was about as “good” and “effective” as the Paris climate one. All facade, no substance.

Forget masks, just distance people.

If I’m staying distanced from others...how are you at risk?

I just said I take responsibility for mitigating my own risk instead of expecting everyone else to do it for me. Way different philosophy.

I minimize my risk be keeping more than 6 fr from other people unless absolutely necessary; that’s far more effective than a mask. And as to skipping thanksgiving, if you do it in a mitigated manner why shouldn’t you be able to visit? Sure, go full LA county and ban outdoor dining. I guess the most interesting thing I’ve observed is that places with mask mandates and curfews are having spikes as bad or worse as places that are less restrictive.

She’s a bit of a zealot; that’ll get interesting.

No, you could not catch covid by quarantining yourself. You interacting with people puts you at risk.

Or we could allow society to continue with minor adjustments for social distancing, and let the elderly participate as much or as little as they want based on how much risk they accept for themselves instead of widespread shutdowns that disproportionately affect the working ability of the younger able people who are at lower risk. Philosophically, restricting the entire society to protect the least productively valuable doesn’t make much sense.

Isn’t that the nature of diseases, generally, that they disproportionately affect the older population? Our advances in medicine in the last hundred years have greatly outpaced evolution’s ability to catch up so that immune response stays strong later in life with the increased life expectancy. We already spend a great deal of our medical effort on keeping people alive longer, so it’s a valid discussion on whether the whole of society should be diminished to protect the segment with the least productive potential.

From that post, I’m not sure she understands the concept of the exchange of goods for currency, or where the UAE lies in the scheme of geopolitics and human rights problems. Really nonsensical, but it is sensational. I was incredibly surprised she didn’t come close to being challenged in this election.

Whoah, let’s not go that far.

Then you’d probably have to admit to Congress that everything isn’t good, and also admit that the retention tools you have claimed are working aren’t actually adequate to request new options from Congress.

You didn’t answer anything.

Sooooo your lack of addressing the question and deflecting says being a Senator didn’t qualify/prep Obama to be a president from a leadership and decision making perspective, copy.

You’re as bad as the crazy account guys with respect to having to get your say in.

About the same level we get from you anytime anyone mentions Donnie. You know you don’t have to complain about him constantly, right?

Keep up with the conversation.

Was I addressing Trump? No, your line of drivel is invalid. I was addressing the adoration for Obama as a great leader automatically because he had been a Senator as his qualification. Just because you can’t comprehend it, doesn’t mean that it’s wrong.

Because the original discussion here was whether Obama as a law school professor and junior Senator had any leadership experience before the White House, and in that frame JFK as a young similarly aged President is a far better comparison.

Dude, am I talking about Trump? No. The comparison was Obama as a young Pres vs JFK as a young Pres and who actually had leadership development.

You mean from the perspective of making impact decisions, the combat leadership that JFK had versus being a law school professor where you lecture and don’t make any high pressure decisions? That experience difference? Please, spare me. Being a law school professor is not a high pressure leadership course.

Invalid at release, I was comparing JFK and Obama, Trump was not considered in my post because I don’t care about him. Any other mis-aimed points you want to make?

I’ll take combat leadership over law school professor any day.

Sure, he was good at speaking and was charismatic and academically knows law, but is that providing leadership opportunities? Not in the same way JFK had to as a PT boat skipper, I would argue, if you want to look at young political wonders. Kind of like MAF HPOs from Phoenix to your reference, I guess the way I look at it.

That doesn’t address the question: Does a junior Senator actually lead anything?