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When I was on the S80 I flew with my share of TWay CA’s. All but one bought, and bought and bought... and the other I only did a turn with. Now that was a double edged sword - after the third beer I was looking for a suicide prevention hotline. Then after another they had me in tears laughing. Those 10 hour layovers were ROUGH!!!! Kidding. They were closer to 11 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Omg that just made my morning! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’d be offended too if someone accused me of wanting to hang out at Robbins, especially with Delta pilots... All I hear about is their amazing upgrades and ps, but it’s amazing how quick that money talk disappears when the bill is due. Those guys never, ever pick up the tab. [emoji52] Now the old NWAs - all night long baby![emoji847] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agree on all points. Number 3 needs to happen - but as an old Omega bubba they just can’t compete with the Airlines and the demand is too much- on all fronts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Looks like the revolt (and numerous retirement papers and 1288) has raised some eyebrows. Word is that Reserve KC135’s will continue with 60 day deployments (for now). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This was a great satire! I never would have see this otherwise so thanks for the plug! Highly recommend. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly! The devil’s definitely in the non-existent details. I can’t see them approaching this any differently, or spending one dime more than they have to. Again, it’s (swapping) in there as a placating measure, but there’s ZERO benefit to doing it even if the squadron has the people (which they won’t). And how as a CC do you distinguish who gets to swap and who doesn’t? Eyewash only my friends. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There’s some good in this. Things we should have done awhile ago. The poison pill is no dwell protection for swap outs. They will be the first called up for the next ones. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yer stuck brah!!! Coffee’s on me today! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

For those of you in UPT, this is not going to be the paradigm shift it is for crusty old reservists like me and many others posting here. It will be your normal. At 1:5 dwell, this will ensure 25 months between deployments, from the 15 months we have now. You will likely go with larger groups (the good old days) and maybe with good DETCOs have a fighting chance against the lunacy of today’s modern deployed Air Force management. But here’s the downside: In a good, well staffed squadron most people only deployed once every 30-36 months for 2 months. It sucked, but it was a manageable suck. Now you have several factors against this cycle (5 months every 4.5 years) going forward - KC46 conversions and C status from other AFRC 135 squadrons - pilot shortfalls already creeping in before this decision - reduced squadron manning - ability to go to a 1:4 dwell on individual mob With all these factors, and other unforeseen circumstances yet to play out, individuals will be deploying 5 months roughly every two years. My ultimate fear is that when faced with the manning crisis, our ‘top (wo)men’ at AFRC will only double down on their idiocracy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not job security - the security of being home every night with no real disruption. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Although I thought the Felicia comment was pretty funny... Was told this UTA weekend would have more clarity by my OG - and I guess this is it. Haven’t read the MFR, but I will be stuck discussing it among the masses. I am truly sorry for the TOADs stuck with this mess, especially those brothers and sisters in my beloved squadron. A lot of us tried, fought against the machine and did everything we could save for mutiny. We gave them plenty of good options, and they didn’t choose any. It was a good ride, but the reserves of my youth are gone. We took count last UTA and estimated that 80% of our TRs will be gone in 2 years (some immediately and others as their dwell expires from this years turn in the meat grinder). For those considering continued life in the 135 reserves, it wasn’t a bad deal and the squadron level folks were amazing. But 4 months away from your loved ones and 5 months lost income is going to be catastrophic to most TRs. In my case, I will lose AT LEAST $35,800, and that’s nothing compared to not being around the family. Many of our jr TR’s already have good airline jobs and are contemplating IMAs, or flat out separating. Our ARTs are the hardest hit. The security they traded for just vanished. We have a few that will retire early, and others that just put their apps in. I only know of two of the younger ones that have indicated any desire to stay in. TWO. In a squadron that was 100% manned on both ART/TR’s, AFRC has in one “hold my beer” decision decimated us. Where do we find such men... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ummmmmmm, no. My buddy started the thread. The only valuable insight I’ve ever scoured on this forum was the movie thread (death of Stalin was fantastic btw), and I think that’s the only thread I’ve ever read on here besides this...Maybe? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - it’s not the forum’s fault, I just like other subjects! Anyway, thanks for ‘over analyzing.’ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We (AFRC 135’s) are going to 120’s in country, 5 months total orders. NAF confirmation, Wing, OG, etc. This is a huge issue to those of us that have fought for decades to keep the reserves as good as they can be. The OP started the thread IMNSHO to get the word out as anyone considering what used to be a good gig in the early 00’s is now maybe not such a good deal. But seriously- who the eff are you to tell people to ‘GTFO’ a forum because we are bringing attention to an idiotic policy that will be catastrophic to squadrons that we love? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Ummmmmmm, ok. It’s official policy per the NAF, acknowledged by our Wing and OG/CC’s. How they implement it? That’s a good question. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m slow... but not outraged. And unfortunately, it doesn’t change the overall sentiment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/45605173 YGTBFSM. I have served in some form for over half of my life. I’m a fourth generation (maybe even more) ‘soldier.’ We do what we do because it’s in our nature, and we are who we are. But always remember, ultimately: They. Don’t. Care. About. You. I know it’s thread drift, but it goes to the larger overall issue in the Air Force. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Ugh. It’s my first time on the internets. Apologies.

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Lol