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Good thing my wife doesn’t eat pork and there is none in the house, but before you judge, bacon does not count. Mmmm Bacon!

Hacker on point. Especially using part of his statement gave me the chills a bit but very very true. Nothing is “immune” in aviation. Plenty of cargo now, but so many factors out there so we’ll keep at it.. Always cyclic like many things.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwiY1NTpwN_oAhUXbc0KHV7mCv8QFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indexmundi.com%2Fclocks%2Findicator%2Fdeaths%2Funited-states&usg=AOvVaw3wfxcxE4l2A0nR-PC-SnAr Good “food for thought” specifically on how we perish posted earlier (Very Good Work which takes effort). Some things we have no control over as were mentioned, a lot of the others have been due to long life personal choices. Here is another snapshot of a time lapse within these United States as we pass away; just another perspective from the 60,000 ft level. If link doesn’t work, Google “United States Death Clock.” Supposedly we lose someone every 11.14 seconds or thereabouts. Just like “Danger41” said - “Food for thought”

On a separate note. I am weird perhaps, but it’s kind of nice not having to shake hands without a glare. I understand our human requirements for contact/social greetings, but as many airport bathrooms I have been in (many countries), it’s disturbing how many do not wash hands so definitely a point there. Jeeesh.

People is kind of generic don’t you think. Maybe the people you associate with or live with or watch don’t do it hence “people”. We’ll just call them the ignorant to further specify. Not great, but better. If anyone is like this, totally agree, don’t wear gloves, don’t do anything, why bother, just stay away from me. Your right, definitely much more authoritarian in the Asian sector and I do not wish to be under such gubment power. But, it’s also a matter of discipline, washing hands, staying apart, Hong Kong folks shopping heavily ”trying” to keep distance (just not bumping into me which was normal) almost all with masks, some have gloves, most do not I grant you - but they’ve been out for weeks now with no doors welded keeping them in. It was very lite traffic doing essentials early on during the epidemic and some even had trackable wrist bands, plastic style/paper not handcuffs. Deliveries between all buildings every night for morning delivery. Nearly 7.5 million would have starved as they are much more thin than us, all kidding aside there was quite a bit of common sense support. Not advocating, just informing, just saying. I’ll see if I can dig up some of my HKG mall photos as of recent. Easy peasy for them and when over, they’ll resume normal ops. Culture, discipline, government definitely deeper. Just watching it in real time and not via the internet/news. Good stuff and bad stuff going on as usual, we are doing better. Economy, that’s to be seen and I do believe their are many other ways to have dealt with this specifically regarding our countries culture/economy 20/20 hindsight of course. Just be safe out there!

Well maybe your right. Using Taiwan, Singapore, Korea and Hong Kong as examples, they did extremely well comparatively to us and others. Hong Kong 7.5 million Population, under 1,000 cases, 4 deaths. Definitely having been thru SARS helped, borders are different, but I would give it to the local discipline/culture. We enjoy incredible freedoms beyond most which I cherish and I wouldn’t swap with China and have my doors welded shut that is for sure. This is an unfortunate learning experience. Definitely nothing compared to what the Greatest Generation endured, but baby steps hopefully not needed, ever. Just an opinion.

Just speaking for myself and others I work with (yes, we’re still flying) we do pretty well wiping the flight deck down even after the cleaning crew has done their job. It guarantees nothing, just more prudent. (And no we don’t wear masks once we’re ready to go.) It’s not motorcycling, skateboarding, etc. It makes me more self aware and I don’t get closer, try to mingle or shake hands with anybody because of it. I guess it’s about self discipline and acclimating to a mask. Once my mask is on, it’s on and no fixing - others may fiddle with it uncomfortably I guess. My gloves are on during outings, thrown into the wash or latex thrown away once I get back home. Wash my hands/face and resume normal home activities. But I guess I must declare I cheat the “normal” tendencies since I wear a CPAP. Don’t fiddle with it at night and the N95 mask doesn’t bother during minor outings during the day which we should be adhering too. Bottom line, I am not subjecting my family to negligence on my part as best I can. It may prove futile, but there’s no harm in effort. Look at Biden, coughing then touching his face immediately afterwards with the same hand. But that’s something else besides lack of discipline.

Key point when you choose to retire on terminal leave. I picked Aug as you gain leave while on leave so stay away from last of Sep. Also my PT test was due in Sept that’s one less, Maximize terminal as best as you can so you start your next job if you desire and double dip isn’t a bad idea. Never sell it back on retirement year since you lose quite a bit. Good luck to all.

A plus for some Asians: Although they have toned quite a bit. HKG Protestors see the benefit now as the public has been forced to join their ranks of mask cohesion.

That’s good stuff right there. Man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do. Thins the gene pool out correctly as well.

I rarely go out, but when I do for finite resources I wear a mask and gloves. Being respectful of others and no one exactly knows the actual effectiveness good/bad percentages wise, but having the resources especially if you (I am that guy) tour the world on a frequent basis (every month) it is my duty to remain aware and apart from others in order not to jeopardize them or their families. My area is relatively naive and a third at best now wear protective gear, but they stay clear of those with masks thinking we might have this virus and rightfully so. Mask makes me personally aware of my face so I dare not touch it. I do not believe I have it since I was checked in Mar positive for the flu type B (now I wonder if you can have both as the testing stopped there, who knows). Either way, it’s a mild nuisance, we have all had chem gear training of some sort; therefore, you can add common sense measures when you arrive home discarding gloves, mask, clothes in the wash, getting sprayed in the face by my wife before I escaped to the shower after a world trip. Overkill perhaps, but it’s not hurting anyone and prudent in regards to things I care about. Company gives me kits so I use them, no big deal for me.

Oooh, I firmly believe your opinion is fact. Applicants are lining up at our door; therefore, more qualified candidates are at your door around the block no doubt about it. We haven’t been able to be selective due to contract issues for years, but now we are starting that trend ever so slightly. This reverses any leverage we might have thought we had (pilot shortage, etc.) as we fumble through almost a 4 year delayed contract this upcoming Sept. Not good for us, but the checks haven’t bounce as of yet (probably because they are feather weight comparatively).

Sorry, that’s too funny... Fell off the couch...

Unfortunately I believe this as well ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Landscape will change, we’ll see where the cards fall... Very Good Points!

If you despised it prior to departure, you are probably correct. Very situation dependent and priorities change. Everyone is different and on a different course, but if you have a line number and it’s OK by the company (couldn’t see why not right now), it might help others if you were senior enough/helps stabilize your finances (known quantity)/Seniority rises/accrue greater percentage of mil retirement 2.5% per year which adds up and the icing on any cake is if you enjoy it. No one else can answer that question but you. I earn a good living, contract definitely far behind others but coupled with Mil retirement and other benefits it works extremely well 4 me! BLUF - I have a Great Time going to work compared to others which I’m sure creates longevity in my case. Not in all cases as I see pilots from many carriers who are amazingly still chugging along, crusty, worn out and simply miserable from an unfortunate checkered past not of their own doing. They dwell among others who are luckier than them and they let the past burn them up, etc. Or others who are impatient to “get theirs” on an immediate basis and seem to have always been screwed or held down some way. Nature of this industry, timing is everything and we tend to give too much credit to ourselves. It’s a volatile world and has many opportunities view dependent. Point is -If the opportunity is available and you enjoy it/fits your needs = do it. Otherwise find another way! You only have ONE Life! *If Possible - Try to get something in writing that indicates your employer releases you from obligation for a designated amount of duration (that meets your needs) due to current events. AKA, COVID-19 Good Luck out there as we hopefully extinguish this fire sale event.

Comm or cyber, they all are responsible for not fixing this from the beginning. Now it’s tougher as I am older with these “cheaters” (reading glasses) on. Not all keyboards, but no one put a work order change to the manufacturer. Daaaang it.

Still makes laugh, original craft or not, very well done. I have to sleep before the NYC virus spike gets me while I’m tired. I know this is sort of a repost, but I have added some thoughts - just digging deeper to the core of what may or may not come to fruition regarding impacts. I unfortunately am leaning now towards the airlines changing their business model (nothing new I guess) to come back slowly to meet the demand accordingly by right shape sizing. No one knows for sure but you can better grasp of what’s going on at the core. The big hit is they are not the first ones actually doing this. Businesses are getting savvy with video teleconferencing (VTC) yet again and savings costs they literally forgot about, but now are reminded of. Let’s not forget having employees with home offices devalues brick and mortar real estate costs, building codes, no utilities, or TP, just a tax right off if possible. Travel, hotels per diem are operating costs. This generation craves such ease of life measures as it pseudo emulates a GIG economy on a smaller scale. Heck, honestly I would too. Work during the week when I want, obscure hours at my choice and have food delivery rather than stuck in a cubicle from 8-5 M-F or more when I did it (was 9-5), even weekend access to employees. This is dangerously efficient and I would be wrong to assume the bean counters aren’t crunching numbers right now. Service providers such as large restaurants which seems to be laying workers off vs furloughing them and bringing them back. Several individuals interviewed said they thought this was temporary and go back to work when it gets back up and running soon after the lock down was over here in NYC. Employers indicating right sizing, doing more with less. How could they not accomplish this with a surge of unemployed most likely willing to work even harder, longer and for less. We see plenty of this normal type of discussions/proposals on the APC forum as an example. Parents of 54 million children mandated for home schooling, picking up study materials and trying to work this out and work at home just announced. It’s far deeper than leisure travel taking a hit as people dip into savings if they have any. Every day counts but who knows where the break even point is to lift lockdown and get back to work too early and spread again. But they now have a deal on the Relief Bill / Bailout package is agreed upon. Hope it works well. 3AM Eastern 25 Mar. Spike seems to be coming. Hate this, just being frank.

Yeah, that went horribly wrong. Crazy people.

Bud, what are you doing up? I am in New York City and Leadership is going nuts. I hope your in a better place than here. On a good note: Bailout - Deal has been agreed upon 3AM / 25 Mar eastern of course. So we have that going for us, which is nice! You really did make my day with the millennial camel stuff, fell out of my chair! That was quality enlightenment. Thanks! The memes coming out are a good change vs mental strain. Thanks to everyone, and no one is being mean. We just have to drive on and have a laugh for our own sake. We all understand the issue at hand is tough to say the least.

This is exactly where the rubber is meeting the road right now regarding change. Forced back to telecommute/video teleconferencing at an accelerated rate. Companies quickly invested in the software and business sector will come back regarding travel meetings but not nearly as strong. It was going to happen anyway and now the real estate is truly the home. The brick and mortar will decrease as it is required no longer. Probably some good sized tremors if the bean counters really do their homework.

A few Pics doesn’t really justify the mass of iron laying around, but seeing this here, there at least everywhere I’ve been lately is surreal.

The above was directed towards torqued who I don’t know, but I just figured I’d distract the situation so we could move on. Seems to have worked, maybe.... Oh my Lord, it’s looking at me now. Clever, you gave some thought to this one. I don’t deserve your attention or time but thank you. Not R. Lee Ermey worthy, but very good nonetheless. Not being sarcastic, I thoroughly enjoyed that, it made me raff. Sorry, my generation (Gen X) is to blame for that facetube, selfie, GIG economy, etc. thing you mentioned. I don’t even have Facebook or Alexa but YouTube is great for fixing things. I’m not you, but I’d add podcast to your “Interests.” You seem like the most interesting man in the world. Now back to your normally scheduled program my apologies. World is changing rapidly right now and it’s a forced learning curve with some major impacts globally. Sitting in this Hyatt in the New York City area, front desk said they just spiked to 40% capacity vs the average 15-20% of most hotels and they are thankful. Pictures are from Korea (2 days ago) and Hong Kong (dark 3 days ago, and we’re at least a month behind them), Europe is the same. Virus should worry me more perhaps but witnessing first hand cities around the world concerns me a bit. Obviously quick snapshots of my phone - just that lazy/not tech savvy anymore.

“but I’m not synthesizing hours worth of material for your intellectual laziness.” - SurelySerious “But if I do and it isn't everything you're telling me it is, I'm gonna be pissed.” - torqued Come on maaaan! Let’s go outside and do some pushups maaaan! Someone here is a “Lying Dog Faced Pony Soldier!” Sorry, I don’t mean that - but if you started from the beginning that it was hours and probably even more hours of research we could have circumnavigated this whole Flat Earth Worth of discussion. World is going to do what this diverse world is going to do. With no data to support, the world will not be like it was just over 2 months ago - the landscape will change and I wish the Best for all. Let’s flatten that curve. At least that’s what the digital boards show on the highways here in NYC. I’m out, I’ve got to go catch up on some NetFlix before I go do some gov sanctioned work. Now where did I put that El Presidente permission to travel slip... dang it!

Phew! So not a total rug pulled from under you, that’s much better to hear. Yes, these moves do not solidify trust. Thank you for clarification. Public needs you back, you need you back and least of all by far regarding our importance (we’re behind the scenes) us box haulers need you back. So much easier than chasing company iron around. Appreciate what you do.

If it was “just” taken off the table, did anyone manage to secure it prior - or it didn’t matter if or when as it just dissipated like vaping entirely... basically an expired shelf life for management to capitalize on? No take-backsies dammit. This blows...